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old31 07-06-2018 02:41 PM

Antifreeze cost comparisons
 

I went shopping for anti freeze, the concentrate, not the 50/50 mix.

Prestone yellow per gallon.

O'Riellys $17.99

Wallmart $10.95

Charlie Stephens 07-06-2018 04:16 PM

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Thanks, that is a valuable piece of information.

Charlei Stephens

denis4x4 07-06-2018 04:44 PM

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I use Sierra as it is pet friendly, therefore the cost is immaterial.

BILL WILLIAMSON 07-06-2018 04:51 PM

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Just had store brand Catsup, for 1/2 the price of Major Brands, can't tell the difference!
Almost ALL Catsups have the same taste, NOBODY wants an "OFF THE WALL" flavor!
Bill Smacking

Bob-A 07-06-2018 05:49 PM

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denis4x4, I'm with you on Sierra anti-freeze.;) Plus, it does not foam up
like the Preston did for me.:(



Bob-A:D

nhusa 07-06-2018 07:18 PM

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Just got 3 gallons of Prestone from Wallyworld.
Was surprised to see that it raises the polling point of water.

BILL WILLIAMSON 07-07-2018 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nhusa (Post 1648379)
Just got 3 gallons of Prestone from Wallyworld.
Was surprised to see that it raises the polling point of water.

YES, it does. With 50/50 Antifreeze & a 10 Lb pressure system, it won't boil until 232 Degrees.
Bill W.

ronn 07-07-2018 01:27 PM

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can't tell the difference!

sorry to hear that Bill

only Heinz 57 for me!

nhusa 07-07-2018 04:37 PM

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Bill. I thought that water boiled at 100 degrees.:eek:


If a bit of anti freeze doubles it — all I can say is WOW! :p:p

:D:D:D:D:D

midgetracer 07-07-2018 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nhusa (Post 1648691)
Bill. I thought that water boiled at 100 degrees.:eek:


If a bit of anti freeze doubles it — all I can say is WOW! :p:p

:D:D:D:D:D

Fun mixing up degrees F and degrees C. A mole of a non electrolyte in water will raise the BP .52C, but ethylene glycohl is an electrolyte so it raises the BP much higher.

Y-Blockhead 07-07-2018 11:50 PM

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Why are we talking about Blood Pressure???

midgetracer 07-08-2018 05:33 AM

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boiling point

nhusa 07-08-2018 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by midgetracer (Post 1648799)
Fun mixing up degrees F and degrees C. A mole of a non electrolyte in water will raise the BP .52C, but ethylene glycohl is an electrolyte so it raises the BP much higher.

So now your putting moles in the water.
I learn something new everyday.

Do you have to feed them or do they find their own food?

mfarley 07-09-2018 07:35 AM

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I've always heard that moles can become cancerous and therefore should be removed by a trained physician. Not what I want in my coolant.

Railcarmover 07-09-2018 07:57 AM

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Propylene glycol has replaced ethylene glycol in most antifreezes..its non toxic...and lower cost.Funny I dont see the lower cost part.

Corley 07-09-2018 08:15 AM

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And with all the fetishes that the A crowd has, how come no one has mentioned the TYPE of water? You know, purified water, de-ionized water, heavy water, muddy water, distilled water, rain water, anything BUT what we have readily available, tap water.

katy 07-09-2018 08:43 AM

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I like my water with an equal amount of Scotch.

redmodelt 07-09-2018 10:06 AM

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Re water, depends on where you live. In Portland Ore. I only use Bull Run water, pure mountain snow/rain water. :) LOL

Keith True 07-09-2018 11:25 AM

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I go to the junkyard with a clean barrel and a pump.I drop the hose into the top six inches of green in their tank,and turn it on.I do it on mondays when it has settled for a day or so.I use that in my A's and any old gas equipment or trucks around.I don't use it in anything modern or with wet sleeved diesel engines.While Sierra is fine for gas engines,I had a very bad experience with it in the lats 80's with a Cummins truck engine.When I did the engine over I figured I would be a good doobie and use Serria.In 10 months,just over 100,000 miles,I had two cylinder liners pinhole.At the base of the liner the coolant always boils away from combustion heat,the Sierra attacked the liner metal.This was common on those engines,but at 4-500,000,not at 100,000.Not only did I have to pay a lot for the Sierra,I got to go my engine again at less than 1/4 of it's expected time.

eagle 07-10-2018 09:04 AM

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Heres what i've heard... Antfreeze becomes acidic after long use, your coolant system then becomes a battery and eats your metal components. Worse with aluminum. Simple and cheap preventive maintenance to buy 50/50 mixed antifreeze and replace every 5 or 6 years. Drop one probe of a DVOM into the radiator coolant while grounding the other probe to the engine block. If you get more than .2v it's time to replace.

midgetracer 07-10-2018 09:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith True (Post 1649273)
I go to the junkyard with a clean barrel and a pump.I drop the hose into the top six inches of green in their tank,and turn it on.I do it on mondays when it has settled for a day or so.I use that in my A's and any old gas equipment or trucks around.I don't use it in anything modern or with wet sleeved diesel engines.While Sierra is fine for gas engines,I had a very bad experience with it in the lats 80's with a Cummins truck engine.When I did the engine over I figured I would be a good doobie and use Serria.In 10 months,just over 100,000 miles,I had two cylinder liners pinhole.At the base of the liner the coolant always boils away from combustion heat,the Sierra attacked the liner metal.This was common on those engines,but at 4-500,000,not at 100,000.Not only did I have to pay a lot for the Sierra,I got to go my engine again at less than 1/4 of it's expected time.

What you need for your Diesel engine is an Oxygen scavenger additive, usually contains a nitrite which ties up the oxygen in the antifreeze. The oxygen in the antifreeze is what causes the neatly drilled pinholes in the cylinder walls and ruins the engine. I could provide more info about antifreeze, but it only results in jokes or insults.

Rusty Homestead Fl 07-10-2018 01:09 PM

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I used to read on here NEVER use antifreeze in your Model A engine. Story was if it ever got into your pan it would eat the babbit. Has something changed?

Keith True 07-10-2018 03:46 PM

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Same thing is true for any engine.If it gets into the pan in a modern engine it wipes out the babbit too.The babbit is just a little thinner in a modern engine.It doesn't attack it because it is babbit,it just wipes it out because it is not a lube.It's like trying to use water for oil.

Benson 07-11-2018 07:30 AM

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"Oh my God ... There are 6.022 times 10 to the 23rd power, atoms in each Mole of water and some of it spilled on my white lab coat!

How many Jigawatts of power will it take to dry out my white lab coat in the dryer?

BILL WILLIAMSON 07-11-2018 07:23 PM

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Comparing antifreeze to Catsup, "wunder" if I can buy a GALLON Jug of Catsup??? That would last out for 27 Lbs of Fish Sticks or Hot Dog Weiners.
Bill Cheep

CarlG 07-12-2018 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON (Post 1650091)
Comparing antifreeze to Catsup, "wunder" if I can buy a GALLON Jug of Catsup??? That would last out for 27 Lbs of Fish Sticks or Hot Dog Weiners.
Bill Cheep

Costco has ketchup in gallon cans/jugs.

29er 07-12-2018 11:50 PM

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Is the boiling point of catsup higher or lower than ketchup? :confused:

old31 07-13-2018 07:03 AM

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Well, the boiling point is dependent on how much antifreeze you mix in with that red stuff, no matter what you call it.

Geeez, everybody knows that!:D

Bruce Adams 07-13-2018 12:17 PM

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My local ACE Hardware stocks SIERRA which I also like due to its non-toxic contents and resistance to foaming. I use it with DISTILLED WATER at around $1 per gallon at Stop & Shop.

DHZIEMAN 07-14-2018 10:40 AM

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For antifreeze, it is all about price, and not the 50-50 stuff! To me, ethylene glycol is ethylene glycol, and if it is sold as antifreeze, low price is always my choice! What I try and do is have in the back of my mind my current garage inventory, and I try not to buy this stuff when I need it but rather when on sale! It does require being aware of the best prices!


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