ford 4 spd overdrive to 59ab
 

what kind of a bell housing do I need to do this pics of the transmission

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never done it, but i'm sure folks are using a bell off the front of a truck 4spd. there was even a guy making the adaptor for the torque tube i believe. you'll have to ask mr google, he knows every thing

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Open drive line

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I think Ol Ron has done that, search his posts.

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https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthrea...highlight=f150

John

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Model Engineering makes an adapter fora Ford 4 speed top loader trans which I believe is the same config as the 3 + 1 O/D trans you have. I have one for the 4 speed and its high quality.

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that what I was looking for thanks

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I used the bell off the front of a flathead Ford 4 speed and made a simple flat aluminum plate to that same RTS transmission. It works just fine with the overdrive and the synchromesh first gear. Did this to at least a half dozen flathead engines.
Don't know how to put the pictures on this site, but can send them to an email address.

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I can post them for you if you like. [email protected]

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Could you send pics to [email protected]. I am interested in that application. Thanks

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I can post them to I sent you a pm thanks

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All kind of help! :)

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here is a pics from modelengineeringco





thank jay for the pics but I could not post them

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1931
Please post the pictures that I just sent you. I'm not very good with computer stuff.
Jay

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I sent them to jseery I could not do anything with them for some reason

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Ok, headed home.

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Yes, I did this to an 8BA in my 47 with a spicer 44A rear,. really works like a dream. I used a stock stamped steel bell housing and welded on some tabes after boting out the regester to the same size as the tran,. another way to do this id with a Hogs head adapter for the 59. I realize most prople dont have the machinery to do this, but if you know sombody with a mill, it's pretty easy.

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Here are the photos Jay was wanting posted. They are of two different transmission bolt patterns, but the concept is the same for both. This is the approach I use for T5 adapters using a "Hogshead" for the bellhousing part.

www.jalopyjournal.net www.jalopyjournal.net" This is what I did.www.jalopyjournal.net I use the exact same transmission that you have in your picture.www.jalopyjournal.net It's simple.www.jalopyjournal.net www.jalopyjournal.netThere is nothing to it."
Jay

One of the first steps is to determine the input shaft length which determines the thickness of the adapter plate.

Note: Sorry it took so long!!! My wife had surgery yesterday and spent most of my time at the hospital. Running a little behind.

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hope your wife is doing good

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I will also post some of the T5 adapter information I have posted previously. It might provide you some additional data. Remember, this is T5 specific (actually T5z), but the concept is the same for just about any transmission using a flat adapter plate and a "Hogshead".

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As of late she spends most of her time in the hospital! Hopefully they are getting everything taken care of. This one was a neck vertebrae fusion.

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I was in that shape a year ago I'm just have to live with what I got best of luck it is the craps of getting old

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JSeery
Your wife will be in my prayers that she gets better.
Thanks for posting the pictures.
Jay

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Who makes the shifter in the bottom right picture?

Bob

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I don't know, it was a vender at a swap meet. I made my own similar to the one pictured. I can find some photos of the parts if you are interested. My objective was to use an original shifter located in the original location modified to work as a remote shifter. You can do an online search on remote shifters and turn up a lot of examples. They are fairly popular on various mustang applications.

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Some pictures would be great. I did a search before and didn't see anything
like that shifter.

Bob

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What kind of money are we talking about for the adapter for a 59a eng and the 170 trans?

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Here are a few of the shifter bracket I built. Sorry, this is all I have photos of at the moment. I will also post some examples of other approaches.

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Thanks for the pictures.

Bob

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You know what, Seery? That right there is some slick stuff, SIR! Curious as to how well (how fast) that thing shifts? DD

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The same general setup is used in road racing applications.

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JSeery
Thanks for posting the remote shifter pictures. Looks like you have that problem all figured out.

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I like the T5z and don't really like the idea of switching the tail housing on a new transmission. I could get the T5z for around $1,100 with free shipping for a few years. That was a deal hard to pass up! But no longer.

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so what is your price and what do you get with it

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1931 flathead I sent you a message

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TJW,,,what’s a good “Round Number Estimate “ (Price) on your conversion..?? That looks like the way to go for one more gear on my 48....

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JSeery, That is a very nice solution to moving the shifter without disturbing the innards. Seems simple and clean. Thanks - Bob

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I have neither the equipment or brains that JSeery & others here have, so I used the Model Engineering adapter that Gene Sanders sells. As 51540BAT mentioned , it is a very high quality item. When installed & painted, it's hard to tell it's not an original equipment item. I used a true 4 speed, which has the same bolt pattern as the 3+1.
I'm very happy with the setup. I also added a Gear Vendors O/D behind the 4 speed. Again, it works real well, but in the end it probably would have been less costly and easier to just use a T-5 from a Mustang, and do as "J" did with the shifter.
Jim

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what I found is the plate is around 200.00 or so to get your shaft re splined is around 80.00 plus shipping both ways to find a transmission is around 500.00 or so plus the shipping