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Nooooooooo!!
Just watched (sort of) a perfectly good Tudor body get chopped via a Model A Facebook site of which I am a member. Almost feels like I aided and abetted just by “being there”. :(

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Guilty by association!
Report yourself to the nearest police station. :) lol Jeff

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I used to feel that way too but.....
There are so many cars that sit around and never get on the road.
If they chop it and put a hot running gear under it AND get it driving and enjoy
It's better than mice, spiders and other vermin enjoying it
Besides the owner may make a more valuable car than restoring a tudor
Just MHO

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That chop was nicely done. Looks like about 4". A well done hot rodded model A will always bring more money that a restored stock one. Many cars that get chopped and/or hot rodded are too far gone to be worth restoring (cost too much to restore and aren't worth enough when they are done) so, like Oldbluoval said, better that than leaving them to go back to dust. I have and appreciate both stock and rodded model A's but I do admit that I get a bit emotional when I see someone chop and/or hot rod a VERY nice original or restored car

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In my stock Tudor, I have a hard time seeing traffic signals when I am stopped at a light. I am not the tallest person in the world at 5'9". I have to crouch down. How the heck can someone see traffic lights when several inches have been chopped off? They must have to modify the seats too!

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We have lost a lot of rights in our country. I think it is better to let the ones that own them do what they want with them.

With that said I would not and have never cut up a nice Model A. But I believe people should have that right.

Of the 25 Model A,s that I have redone, most were made from junk or parts.

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Like others, I also admire some of the work done by hot rodders but would never do it myself.
Before a hot rod is put on the road here, it must be inspected by an engineer and certified as safe. I have NO PROBLEM with that. Chopping a body like that would not pass inspection.

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I am a hot rodder, but also cringe at chopping original Model A bodies for a fad.

I fitted 30 stainless stanchions to my 28 ,and had a set of rough windscreen posts that I could have quite easily chopped, but as they have survived for 85 years, I let them rest on the shelf, and made some lower stanchion brackets out of some RHS.

I did not have a spare windscreen frame, so I made one from scratch as it had to be lower than standard .

If I did have an original frame, unless it was so far gone, I would not have chopped that either.

I just hope these dudes put those chopped sections in a box and keep them for the next dude in case he wants to resurrect the roof.

I had a very nice cowl tank, and I put that away and bought a rusted out lump to cut the bottom out of.

I also cringed when a while later, I salvaged a cut out section of a 31 tank from the scrap bin of a local hot rod shop.

It was like shiny new inside.

The terne plate was all there with just a hint of brown fuel stain.

I actually kept it for a couple of years , dunno what for, it would never be welded back into anything, and finally junked it so I would not have to cringe everytime I looked at it.

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I agree with George miller in post #6 I have built my collection from cars that others didn't want . Most of mine didn't run or hadn't run in many years when I bought them . I have never chopped any of mine . I have only made mods that could easily be returned to stock .

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At least there are plenty of Model A's to go around. Some to be restored, some to be left original, and some to be modified.

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Don't act SO APALLED, many of us have cut up stuff------
Bill Laffin'

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Yep, just tonight I cut up a perfectly good pizza. It helped warm me up.:D

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http://i65.tinypic.com/2954qkn.jpg

Here,you want to puke? well puke then..



its your car,do what you want...fill it with concrete if you want. But if you get likkered up and grab the sawzall at least have the decency to bury it in the backyard after you butcher it,dont post it up and show the world your sins..

"Selling my 1931 model A ford rat rod body all the doors are there along with dash and fire wall has most of the floor board Hardly any rust it had started to be chopped 2" but was never finished makes a great rat rod project it's really clean not much dents and I very firm on the price no trades thanks come grab it show contact info txt or call"

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Really !!! the only thing left that may have been worth saving was probably ruined by leaving the gas cap off .

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http://i64.tinypic.com/11hxvk6.jpg

abortions dont necessarily need a sawzall..take this '26 T speedster

1926 Ford Model T Speedster, a restored example that not only looks great but runs well, Complete and ready for its new owner. Electric Fuel pump added and just serviced.....

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ms1oqe.jpg

why no respecting T speedster owner would be caught dead without this book in the treasure chest..

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How do I gasp in text form?

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I bought a like new tool box for a 29 De luxe Delivery from a guy that had hotrodded a high point restoration and was putting in modern seats so he no longer needed the tool box that goes under and behind the passenger seat. Never could have found that part if he hadn't hotrodded a beautiful car. Lucky for me they exist.

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Not to change the subject but I thought the "deluxe delivery" was only 30-31 and that the 28-29's were "sedan deliveries". Did they actually make a '29 deluxe delivery?.

Good point. I am building a '31 DD and will be modifying it which left me with a couple DD specific parts that I will not be using. I already gave the metal floor strips away to a guy with a beautiful restored '31 DD that was missing the strips and had been unable to find any in 20 or 30 years of searching and I still have the extra long rear bumper brackets that I will not be using.

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I was walking back out of my shed just now, and my gaze briefly landed on this randomly placed assortment of bits. (Sorry, you’ll have to rotate it).
For a millionth of a microsecond, my head asked: “Hmm. Ratrod?” What was I thinking? My heart quickly said: “Nah!”.
I blame this thread. :rolleyes:

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Both my 28 phaeton and 31 P/U ride on recycled running gear from rodded cars so there is a bright side ,nothing went to the scrap man . Sadly this is not the case with AA trucks in the UK . When one comes up for sale here it stands a very good chance of being bought by a rodder for the cab,sheet metal and title . Very little call for the AA running gear so after the engine is sold the rest mostly goes for scrap . A rod shop once offered me 3 complete drum to drum bevel gear AA back axles for equiv $150 . I did not buy as at the time I had no space, a later enquiry revealed they went for scrap . The demise of an AA truck is a bit like shootimg an elephant to get its tusks . Some years back I checked with our DVLA (DMV) and they had around 50 AA trucks registered that is out of thousands built at Manchester and Dagenham so they definately are endangered species !!!

John in sunny morning and a Happy New Year to you all may you enjoy good health and prosper Suffolk County England .

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I have a stock 31 deluxe roadster and a briggs 4 door. I am taking the fenders off the briggs, lowering it a bit and building a nice Model A flathead 4 cylinder hot rod motor for it. Keeping it old school hot rod, No top chop. I like them all.

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Fixed

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Thanks, Burner. I even tried rotating this photo in the opposite direction before uploading, to no avail. There must be some “this way is UP” code embedded in the pic.

Now you can really appreciate my wheelie castors!

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Janet talked me into a Tudor that's now tucked in for the winter. She was very happy to let me buy an already-restored and beautiful Model A WITH WINDOWS!! this fall.
I don't lament the chopped Tudor. There are a lot of not-restored Model A's that need everything on the market. Few Model A'ers and almost none of the unwashed old car nuts can distinguish between "needin'" and "done" when it comes to price. If all those projects get the torch treatment, the value of Henry's most utilitarian body style will appreciate greatly. (Smiley Face) in case you don't see the logic in my message.

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Another Hot Rod to increase the value of my original. JP

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R.I.P.
Never understood why they always cut it and then do the rest really poorly. Normally never finished either...