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kqa3637 05-25-2017 08:44 PM

Gear shift lever on a Model A
 

I have a 1930 Fordor Town sedan... I was waiting in a parking lot for my wife to come out of a store... This elderly gentleman came up to me, and told me that in years past he has owned 3 model A's... He seemed very knowlegable... He told me to get into the car and put the gearshift lever in neutral... And then to pull straight up on the gear shift lever... He said it would disconnect from the transmission and then I could move the lever way out of the way if I chose to do so... My car does not do this... Has anyone ever heard of this??? Or was he pulling my leg...

Thanks ahead of time for your reply's...

Charlie Stephens 05-25-2017 08:58 PM

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My '31 RDPU does this and I assumed they all did. It doesn't need to be in neutral when doing this, any gear will do. You can be driving down the road in 3rd and get the lever out of the way of the passenger. You need to remember to be careful when returning it to the normal position, hold the lever and let it down slowly, don't just let it bang.

Charlie Stephens

Bob C 05-25-2017 09:00 PM

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It should move out of the way, maybe you did not pull it up high enough.

Bob

Terry, NJ 05-25-2017 09:08 PM

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My Friend , Rick, showed me this "Trick"the first day I owned my town sedan. He said his father told him that it came in handy when you were on a date. I can't imagine what exactly he meant by that, maybe you can figure it out.
Terry

quickchange 05-25-2017 09:09 PM

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Yes , Down under its know as the courting gear?? out of gear , Both hands on it ( the gear lever ) pull up & fold too one side , That gives you much more room in the front seat when ???

jim galli 05-25-2017 09:24 PM

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If you're really talented you can get it in reverse and second at the same time which effectively locks the transmission.

BRENT in 10-uh-C 05-25-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by quickchange (Post 1477570)
Yes , Down under its know as the courting gear?? out of gear , Both hands on it ( the gear lever ) pull up & fold too one side , That gives you much more room in the front seat when ???

The original idea behind this designs stems more from when you notice which side the keyed door handle is on. It was customary in the day for the driver to enter/exit from the curb side passenger door. Moving the shift lever out of the way allowed the driver to easily slide across the seat.

1955cj5 05-25-2017 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C (Post 1477583)
The original idea behind this designs stems more from when you notice which side the keyed door handle is on. It was customary in the day for the driver to enter/exit from the curb side passenger door. Moving the shift lever out of the way allowed the driver to easily slide across the seat.

Maybe that's why the spare tire is on the left side?

Gunmetal blue2 05-25-2017 10:14 PM

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Henry made it that way so when you park by the curb, you get out on the side walk that is on the passengers side. It does not matter if you are in gear or in neutral. I have had 5 model a's and one AA and they all will do it. This is for only 3 speed transmissions. The ones that don't want to pull up, is because the spring in the shifter tower is real strong. Trust me it works. I learned that in the 70's.

daveymc29 05-25-2017 10:25 PM

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A good friend of mine learned to drive in a Model A in the 40's. He was getting lucky on a date and she instructed him to pull the lever up and get the shifter out of their way. Funny what girls knew about cars that we dummies never thought of. That works best if the car is in neutral and is an early 28 with the brake on the other side. A very proper looking elderly lady came to look at my rumble seat when I first bought my roadster. She told me, "I lost my virginity in one just like that." So much for prim and proper

kd4lok 05-25-2017 10:40 PM

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Have owned the A since 1960 and never knew of this feature.

Beauford 05-25-2017 11:50 PM

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I have to go into the garage now and try this!

updraught 05-25-2017 11:57 PM

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I thought it was a design "feature" to add a third killer spring after the rear spring and the multiple clutch plate spring.

It is where the term "third time lucky" came from.

Y-Blockhead 05-26-2017 01:13 AM

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Altho I have never tried it, I was told by my friend I bought my Town Sedan from that you could rotate the shifter in this fashion and lock it to the parking brake handle for added security.

patnmand 05-26-2017 01:25 AM

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Has anyone got a video of this? I think I'd like to see it before I try it!

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DougVieyra 05-26-2017 02:09 AM

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The "League of Decency" has tried in vain for over 85 years to stamp out this information. And it must be noted, that since most have forgotten this 'shift lever slide', the birthrate has dropped down amongst Model A owners.

marty in Ohio 05-26-2017 07:03 AM

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My father-in-law told me about this long before I owned a Model A. He said they called this the "dating stick."
Marty

jhowes 05-26-2017 07:10 AM

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In the 50's we called it the "honeymoon gear" Jack

Hoogah 05-26-2017 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by daveymc29 (Post 1477602)
A good friend of mine learned to drive in a Model A in the 40's. He was getting lucky on a date and she instructed him to pull the lever up and get the shifter out of their way. Funny what girls knew about cars that we dummies never thought of. That works best if the car is in neutral and is an early 28 with the brake on the other side. A very proper looking elderly lady came to look at my rumble seat when I first bought my roadster. She told me, "I lost my virginity in one just like that." So much for prim and proper

She must have been a gymnast!! :p

captndan 05-26-2017 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by patnmand (Post 1477634)
Has anyone got a video of this? I think I'd like to see it before I try it!

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Me too. Seeing is believing.

Railcarmover 05-26-2017 08:05 AM

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So that's why my father winked at me when he showed me that..he also said something about footprints on the mohair..

jdupay 05-26-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by captndan (Post 1477697)
Me too. Seeing is believing.

Me three. Never knew this, but I am a little nervous to try it.....

daveymc29 05-26-2017 08:55 AM

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Just get a motel room. cheaper than the Chiropractors bill in the long run. Pay cash and burn the receipt if necessary.

BILL WILLIAMSON 05-26-2017 08:56 AM

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On a warm evening, a Neighbor Gal sat in Minerva with me in the garage, "BOY, couldn't do SERIOUS makin' out in here"!!!-----"Here, lemme' SHOW You"!!!!----------
Bill Opportunist

Tacoma Bob 05-26-2017 08:57 AM

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I tried this in my first Model A in the late 60s. Was this feature a Ford design or did other makes have it too?

KGBnut 05-26-2017 09:29 AM

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I've known about this "feature" since I was a kid, but in every car I've tried it in it takes a helluva lot of force to lift that shifter up enough to turn it out of the way. I can't imagine moving it while driving.

Anyone else?

Ken

29Cabriolet 05-26-2017 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by captndan (Post 1477697)
Me too. Seeing is believing.

Yeah, before I would try this I want to see it the lever returned to its natural position. My luck, it would disconnect completely and forever! :eek:

PC/SR 05-26-2017 11:25 AM

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When my pal Jerry first had this happen in his 30 coupe, by accident, we thought something was wrong with the transmission.

jimalabam 05-26-2017 11:29 AM

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Hey fellas: IT WORKS. I prefer dating gear, dating stick and honeymoon gear. Also, once with my car at a retirement center, a roadster was parked beside Elmer, a lady was inspecting the Roadser's rumble cushions and said to me with a large smile - "Hmmmm, that was some good times". Out of courtesy, I just smiled back. Jim...

JDupuis 05-26-2017 11:39 AM

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Check with your insurance company first.
Most companies won't cover accidents that happen in the back seat.:) nudge nudge wink wink....Jeff

d. 05-26-2017 04:43 PM

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please don't overthink this...yes, it works, just pull up on the gearshift lever and when it pops, push it forward, toward the dash, out of the way.
Really, that's all there is to it, no big deal, no damage.
When you get ready to resume using the car for what it was built to do (i.e. drive down the road), just flick the gearshift lever back towards center and it will snap back into place, and off you go.

Chuck Sea/Tac 05-26-2017 06:07 PM

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I agree, what's all the worrying?? Look how many posters have done it, me included.

CHuDWah 05-26-2017 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoogah (Post 1477692)
She must have been a gymnast!! :p


Or a contortionist!! ;)

Yeah, it works although it takes some muscle unless your spring is weak (no, not THAT spring - the one on the gearshift :D). Fortunately I found less cramped places than a Model A to do my "sparkin". So I told gullible passengers that pulling up and turning the shift lever engaged the overdrive. :rolleyes:

Was this feature intentional or just a consequence of the design otherwise? I don't recall seeing anything about it in A documents from the period. Does it also work on 30's V-8 Fords?

Chris Haynes 05-26-2017 07:04 PM

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Back in '62 I bought a '31 Sport Coupe that had had the shift lever shortened. I could lift it and spin it 180 degrees to make more legroom when parked.

old31 05-27-2017 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry, NJ (Post 1477567)
My Friend , Rick, showed me this "Trick"the first day I owned my town sedan. He said his father told him that it came in handy when you were on a date. I can't imagine what exactly he meant by that, maybe you can figure it out.
Terry

Terry, what Ricks father meant is that he dated fairly large women. This would help them ease into the car without out them bumping against the gearshift.:D

My old 29 sedan would do the shift trick.

captndan 05-27-2017 07:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON (Post 1477712)
On a warm evening, a Neighbor Gal sat in Minerva with me in the garage, "BOY, couldn't do SERIOUS makin' out in here"!!!-----"Here, lemme' SHOW You"!!!!----------
Bill Opportunist

Tut Tut !

captndan 05-27-2017 07:39 AM

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I still want to see a video.

Ted Duke 05-27-2017 07:42 AM

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ANYONE considering posting a video should read the obscenity statues first. LOL

Roadster Rich 05-27-2017 08:16 AM

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Ask my wife. She learned how to do that at 17!

Terry, NJ 05-27-2017 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by old31 (Post 1478098)
Terry, what Ricks father meant is that he dated fairly large women. This would help them ease into the car without out them bumping against the gearshift.:D

My old 29 sedan would do the shift trick.


Ahhh So that's what he meant!

They all do it! Just look at a cross sectional view of a shift tower and you can see that spring that most guys have a little trouble getting in or out. That's the one you're compressing. Even I found it easy!
Terry


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