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Steve Plucker 03-26-2017 07:24 PM

Reprints of the Model A/AA Ford Service Bulletins...
 

Were there any other "reprints" besides the Post-Era (1957) and the MARC (1997) Ford Model A/AA Service Bulletins??? Maybe one in the late 60's or 70's???

Thanks.

Pluck

Tom Wesenberg 03-26-2017 07:36 PM

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Was the 1957 the one with the cord to bind it together?
I have a set of those I bought off ebay about 20 years ago.
I can't think of the guy's name right now who wrote them.

Ben Staub is the one I have, from 1974.

duke36 03-26-2017 07:36 PM

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have one, Dan Post productions., dated 1972, hardbound.

DougVieyra 03-27-2017 01:29 AM

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The two exact copies I have of the original blue covered 8.5" x 11" FORD SERVICE BULLETINS are 3-hole loose-leaf book, held together by a blue cord, tied together in the middle hole, much like a shoe lace. I bought these two at the time they were being published, promoted and sold through the local chapters of the MAFCA - 1974. I believe they were also advertised in the RESTORER magazine and elsewhere as well.

These copies are identical to the originals issued by the Ford Motor Company. The 8.5"x11" blue cover has embossed edges and a contrasting gold imprint saying "Ford Service Bulletin". It says 'Bulletin' - no 's'.

In looking at the opening page, "FORWARD", it says,
"Compiled by BEN STAUB",
"Published by the Dayton Carrier Co., 6161 Rip Rap Road, Dayton, Ohio 45424"
"Ben Staub 1974"

Doug Vieyra, Eureka, Calif

Tom Wesenberg 03-27-2017 04:00 AM

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Thanks Doug, that's the set I bought on ebay about 15 years ago.
I corrected the name on my posting above.

frank55a 03-27-2017 09:52 AM

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There are only 4 reprints that I am aware of, the MARC copy (out o0f print), the yellow hardbound "Complete" copy that is not complete (available from the dealers), the full size soft bound green cover (available from the dealers), and the next best thing to the originals the Ben Staub copy. I sold a nice copy of the Ben Staub SBs here on the Swap Meet page last year. I have a pretty good copy of the MARC reprint that I might be willing to part with.

vern hodgson 03-27-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DougVieyra (Post 1448893)
The two exact copies I have of the original blue covered 8.5" x 11" FORD SERVICE BULLETINS are 3-hole loose-leaf book, held together by a blue cord, tied together in the middle hole, much like a shoe lace. I bought these two at the time they were being published, promoted and sold through the local chapters of the MAFCA - 1974. I believe they were also advertised in the RESTORER magazine and elsewhere as well.

These copies are identical to the originals issued by the Ford Motor Company. The 8.5"x11" blue cover has embossed edges and a contrasting gold imprint saying "Ford Service Bulletin". It says 'Bulletin' - no 's'.

In looking at the opening page, "FORWARD", it says,
"Compiled by BEN STAUB",
"Published by the Dayton Carrier Co., 6161 Rip Rap Road, Dayton, Ohio 45424"
"Ben Staub 1974"

Doug Vieyra, Eureka, Calif

Yes, I had a copy once, very nice, printed on glossy paper. Now I cannot find it, cannot imagine what happened to it.

Bick in New Zealand 03-27-2017 02:46 PM

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The Australian Model A Restorers Club, offered a copy of the Canadian Service Bulletins interlaced with the Ford Australia Service Bulletins. They also have now sold out and I understand that they are unlikely to be repeated.

cpf240 03-27-2017 05:59 PM

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So, then is the yellow one not good? ... I just picked up a used copy of it...

Sounds like the other versions are hard to come by, and probably expensive!

Tom Wesenberg 03-27-2017 07:19 PM

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Originals or the Ben Staub are the very best, but the ones published by the national clubs are also excellent. Too bad they don't publish more of them.

The yellow book has missing pages showing pictures inside the workshop, etc. and it's also something like 2/3 size, which makes it harder to read.

Benson 03-27-2017 07:55 PM

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My first copy (1962) was same size as yellow one BUT in paperback. I kept it in the car for more than 45,000 miles. It was my emergency roadside reference book if repairs were needed.

I am not sure what color it was originally. Might have been gray with blue lettering.
( Ron C posted a photo of it ... see post #13)

Last time I saw it, it was grease colored from being used for transmission and differential repairs.

As I remember it might have been a Floyd Clymer publication.

larrys40 03-27-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1449265)
Originals or the Ben Staub are the very best, but the ones published by the national clubs are also excellent. Too bad they don't publish more of them.

The yellow book has missing pages showing pictures inside the workshop, etc. and it's also something like 2/3 size, which makes it harder to read.


Agreed Tom.. the old Ben Staub ones are excellent. I've had an original cover I sold to Gordon I. one time and it was black just like Ben Staubs cover. Is the earlier original cover or is it like the MARC set which as a '29 front on it?

Any thoughts to ad guys?
Larry Shepard

RonC 03-27-2017 08:24 PM

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I think this was the first reprint with white cover

Gunmetal blue2 03-27-2017 09:00 PM

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The yellow covered one I bought in the 70's for 7.00 dollars and still have it. It was the first book I bought.

Mitch//pa 03-27-2017 09:19 PM

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I have the one RonC pictured...

Dan R Post 1957

Drive Shaft Dave 03-27-2017 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmetal blue2 (Post 1449313)
The yellow covered one I bought in the 70's for 7.00 dollars and still have it. It was the first book I bought.

That was the first book I bought from Little Dearborn circa 1974.;)

redmodelt 03-28-2017 10:05 AM

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There is also the "Model A Service Manual and Handbook" by Victor Page. It looks to have information from the service bulletins in it. The Preface is dated April 1929.

frank55a 03-28-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by redmodelt (Post 1449511)
There is also the "Model A Service Manual and Handbook" by Victor Page. It looks to have information from the service bulletins in it. The Preface is dated April 1929.


I believe the red book shown below "FORD MODEL "A" CAR" is the book you are referring to. This is a 1929 copy. The book was written with the full cooperation of FMC and it was intended as an operation/service/repair book for the owner that wanted to do his own maintenance. Some of the information in the book may be similar to some of the information in the early Service Bulletins as they were compiled during the same period. The second image is of an ad for the diagnostic chart that was advertised in the back of the original books. This chart was intended to be used in conjunction with the book to identify possible problems so the owner could use the book to make repairs. The chart is being reprinted and is available both by most dealers and also here on the Swap Meet page. The red book is available as a reprint with the blue and gold hardbound cover.

johnbuckley 03-28-2017 01:34 PM

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[...Were there any other "reprints" besides the Post-Era (1957) and the MARC (1997) Ford Model A/AA Service Bulletins??...?
Yes, the Model A Ford Club of Great Britain has recently reprinted the Service Bulletins published by the Ford Motor Company ( England) Ltd for the years 1928, 1929, and 1930. See our website www.mfcgb.org.uk (also just published on the website is the data base list of present known As in the UK)

redmodelt 03-28-2017 01:54 PM

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My well thumbed copy of Victor Page's book is a Post reprint from the 70's, paperback but they did not come with the chart. I do however have a copy of his V8 book from the later 30's with the diagnostic chart.

frank55a 03-28-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by redmodelt (Post 1449623)
My well thumbed copy of Victor Page's book is a Post reprint from the 70's, paperback but they did not come with the chart. I do however have a copy of his V8 book from the later 30's with the diagnostic chart.

You are correct, none of the Model A reprints came with the chart - it was only with the originals. The Model A chart is however now available. As I understand there were 3 charts, a chart for the Model T which is available from some dealers; the Model A chart available from some dealers; and the V8 chart which I have seen but not sure if it is available from the dealers.

DougVieyra 03-28-2017 04:32 PM

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There were two 'gurus' of the Ford Model T, A & V-8, who were closely connected to the Ford Motor Company but worked/wrote independently from Ford.

One was Murray Fahnestock, the other was Victor Page. Both of these early 'gurus' wrote extensively and in detail about the operation, maintenance and repair of the Ford automobiles. There writings were directed at the owners of the cars, rather than the Service Field - garage mechanics. That is one of the main differences between these two writers and the FORD SERVICE BULLETIN.

- Doug Vieyra, Eureka, Calif

d. 03-28-2017 04:48 PM

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I have the Victor Page...Construction, Operation, and Repair for the restorer, revised and enlarged...published by POST MOTOR BOOKS, Arcadia, California, 1961.
It is the 13th anniversary commemorative edition with a Special Added Speed Equipment Section.
It has a black hardbound cover, 543 pages and cost me $5.00 postpaid in 1961. I think it was worth it.

Old182 03-29-2017 06:30 PM

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MARC wrote to Ford a couple of years ago requesting permission to reprint the book. They wanted money up front for the license and it died there.

Midwest Tin 03-29-2017 08:01 PM

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I have this old copy of the Service Bulletin. But do not know if it's an original copy or old reprint. The cover appears to have been black or dark blue. The inside front and rear covers has a plant pattern in cream and green.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. thanks, Jim

larrys40 03-29-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Midwest Tin (Post 1450216)
I have this old copy of the Service Bulletin. But do not know if it's an original copy or old reprint. The cover appears to have been black or dark blue. The inside front and rear covers has a plant pattern in cream and green.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. thanks, Jim

Midwest, Awesome post of originals!
originals and so good to see them. The Ben Staub copy in my opinion with cover is very nice. They are obtainable. My early mentor and since passed away friend Terry Oberer got me reading them early in my teens and twenties. It's amazing how much you can learn about the Model A just reading them.

Sit down and study them sometime. The full size from originals to the full size reprints are a treat!
Larry Shepard

larrys40 04-05-2017 03:22 PM

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There's a copy of Ben Staubs reprints on ebay now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-MODEL-A...5Y4aND&vxp=mtr

looks like a nice set.

Brad in Germany 04-05-2017 09:43 PM

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In 1991, the Ford Motor Company in Germany sponsored a reprint of the German language Model A Service Bulletins. They are occasionally offered for sale on Amazon.de in Germany:
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...4&d=1491446375


Also, the "Ford Amical France" (formerly the "Club Obsolete Ford France") offers its members a scanned reprint of the French Model A Service Bulletins in .pdf format:
http://www.ford-amical-france.fr/Ima...tin_Ford_1.jpg

Brad in Maryland

160B 04-05-2017 10:42 PM

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Here are some photos of a set of original Ford Service Bulletins I acquired in August 2003. They are mint, no grease marks, bent corners or other sign of wear.


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