'36 3 Window Coupe
 

There is a relatively nice '36 Ford 3W Coupe on the auction site that's up to 66,100 $'s right now. It's not mine and I have no financial interest in its sale. I just really admire any of the Early Ford 3W Coupes, and I'm listed to be notified when they appear on various action sites. It seems to me these 3W coupe body styles are now right up there in desirability and price in most cases with the Roadster and Cabriolet body styles.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/191958395587?_...&ul_noapp=true

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Very nice! That sure is fetching a high dollar. Now I know I got a great deal on my 35 three window.
I'll have to watch that one to see what the end result is.

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How can you believe an ad like his when the guy doesn't even know what year his car is?

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Reviewing the pic' attached to the eBay listing I noted several items on the car that seem a little suspect to me.
The grille shell should be painted on the sides, not chrome. The front springs have reverse spring eyes and the rear shocks are the Delco type. I also noted that the brake backing plates are not '36 mechanical and/or 39-48 hydraulics. The wheels are not Ford, they do have '47-48 style of Ford hub caps...
I know my observations and comments might appear to be nit picking, however, the right-up for the eBay add in my opinion is rather vague and miss leading.

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Hi Everyone. JM Thanks for the heads-up on this beauty!

I also noticed some telltale signs of work on it. Modern wiring probably for add-on gauges, dual exhaust, 'new carpet?', no spare tire.

At $66,100, and after 17 bids, it still hasn't hit the reserve yet! :eek:

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I am in agreement with Bluecar on this. Like most guys a price of 66K (reserve not met) requires a closer look. Some of the things I see "suspect" is one of the under-dash gauges is a fuel gauge. Which could only mean that the original dash gauge and sender are either absent or inoperative. There appears to be a couple of brackets that prevent the seat back from being lifted up. I may be wrong but don't all '36 coupes have a lift-up seat back? The engine wiring and a 12 volt battery in the middle of the trunk? Obviously, this is not a "rat rod" and yet it is not exactally a "perfect" car as the seller calls it. For most of us 66K+ is serious money. Unfortunately, reckless bidding which seems to be going on here creates an inflationary mind-set which is hurting the entire hobby short term and long term. JMO

Tom

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Way too much $ for this car. In an auction, all it takes are two unknowledgeable, passionate bidders with too much money to drive the bid way past the objects value. A good thing for the seller.

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As used car salesmen say, "There's an a** for every seat".

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There are many factors that determine the value of an old car. Cars in CA seem to demand higher prices. Maybe there is some interesting history/ownership that some of the "knowledgeable" bidders are aware of? Most of the bodywork, paint and detail look exceptional in the pictures, maybe even better if you have seen the car in person. Some people like the factor that a car has many perks that set it aside from a run of the mill concourse restored vehicle. We are all different in what we will pay for something.

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I may be stating the obvious but this car is no where near the stock version. Just in its stance alone it all screams much more than stock. We have funny gauges, not sure about the brakes but they are not mechanical, it says (flathead?) V8 but who knows, etc, etc. No, I think the $66k presently will go up further, perhaps into the 80s - there is much more to this car that warrants the price I think. I would love to see it in person - it has a real old-time hot rod that intrigued me, especially it being a 3-window ....

Just my 2 cents ....

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You should see the '32 3W he is selling
This guy has the nicest stuff

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That it's a 'Roy Brizio' car says it all....

Brizio has built several cars for Eric Clapton and other such high rollers....

http://st.hotrod.com/uploads/sites/2...40%3B%2A%2C%2A
http://www.rodauthority.com/news/eri...-window-coupe/

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There are ways to sell things on flea-pay that can be attention grabbers. Since the car has not yet met reserve, there may be some shill bidding going on there. This is not against any flea-pay policy that I am aware of. Even after it makes reserve (if it does), there is still nothing to guarantee that shill bidding is not going on. It looks to me like they are puffing it up for a higher dollar sale to a compulsive buyer. The seller may also be a compulsive buyer too. It is a very nice car but it is not completely original so that right there tells a story that is a bit less than honest in my book.

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He doesn't say it's all completely original, he is advertising it as a hotrod. There nothing dishonest about anything he has done. As for claiming they are shell bidding - you have no idea if that's going on and shouldn't insinuate that it is if you don't know for sure.

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I never stated that it was but you know as well as I do that this stuff can happen so there is no point in arguing about it. If you read the add carefully, he states it is in all original condition so the hot rod thing was added later. The car is way beyond any price that I would pay for it so it really doesn't matter to me and likely not to too many others either. The gold chainer guys are all in this territory and I'm certainly not one of those.

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I like V8 Fords just like everybody BUT I think P T Barnum is more in order here.....A FOOL AND HIS MONEY......$66,000 plus and still hasn't reached its minimum.....There is NO 36 three window in this world worth $66,000 Unless a dealer has a brand new one left in stock somewhere (Which I highly doubt)

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http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...p;d=1472940151
Here is a picture of the 1936 Ford Three Window Coupe for sale on eBay.

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Hi Everyone. I see conflicting signs in this shot also. Dash paint very nice (not sure right color, but very nice finish). Waterfall and window handle chromed. New knobs including the extra one at far left. But steering wheel and shifter are as expected on 80 year old car, the knob has been on there a long time it looks like. The exterior shots show a pretty nice paint job.

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Hmmm, I've always thought the Phaeton was the one worth the most money? :rolleyes:

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'36 was the last year for the three window coupe by Ford....

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It's a very nice "example" of a '36 3 window but that's about it; 66K, I don't see it. The car is nowhere near correct and doesn't call out "hot rod" to me either. Anybody have an idea what the knob (starter button?) under the oil/fuel gauge is?

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I also wondered about that. It could be a heater switch but more likely I think it is a push-pull light switch. The reason I say that is there appears to be a headlight relay on the inner fender. If this is the case, does the car have a working horn?

Tom

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Gorgeous 36 3 window coupe! Looks like there's an electric cooling fan stuffed in there also. Great for a hot day parade.

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Brakes are Lincoln Zephyr

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There is no way to tell if any bidding is shill or not. Nothing wrong IMHO about shill bidding below the reserve. Dishonest? Nah but buyer beware.

Did you know that the auctioneers can announce bids that haven't been made up to the reserve price? They do this to try to move things along when the bidding slows down. It is in the auction contract the seller signs I've been told.

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I also noted the aftermarket gauges under the dash, the battery in the trunk, and noted possible problems with the seat structure.
I noted also what appears to be phillips head screws holding the trunk supports to the floor pan. a few other nuances suggest to me that the floor pan has been replaced, which would be very common on a car of this vintage.
I could babble on about the many problems I have noted with the '36, however, it would most likely be like preaching to the choir. Most people jump to conclusions, seeing only what they want to see.

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If you type "shill bidding" into Google, Flea-Pay's policy comes right up and explains how it is dealt with by them. I've never worried about it since most bidding just boils down to what a person wants to bid. Someone may in fact really want that car that bad. You see drama like that when watching televised auto auctions all the time. I don't go for that stuff but a lot of folks do.

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Your right about the grille, he should just trade me for a painted one to make it right. :)

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Hi Everyone. Blucar was on V-8 Club judging teams in many meets, so his eye is coming from there.

Definitely grill issues. Reproduction is just on the side of 'Too Nice'.

TomT; He won't care too much because this car has some additional features not visible in the info we're provided to 'increase' performance over stock. And I'm good with his eye, fer shure!

Interesting, but not for 80G's!

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The seller of this car is Scott Gillen. He's had some nice cars built by Brizio, et al, but also ruined some previously nice ones, too. He tends to look at things through rose colored glasses and went through a bunch of drama on the HAMB when he was called out on it. He likes hot rodded old Fords, but doesn't come across as the most knowledgeable about them (also, hence the HAMB drama).

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This explanation of the $66K bid makes sense to me. Someone has bought into the Brizio cachet and is willing to pony up the $$$$$$ to say they own a Brizio restored/built car. I was unable to bring up all the photos. Has the engine and drivetrain been modified?

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Appears to have the correct 21 stud.On the intake looks like where the gen mounts has had reinforcing done.Might have a Powermaster generator hence the electric fan.Rear is '36.Springs have reversed eyes.If it is a Brizio built car the current bid is a fraction of what it probably cost to build.

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Pretty hard to get into a Brizio built car for under $100K....

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The seller contacted me once about buying one of my cars.
He said that I should google his name and see who he is.
What an egotistical wanker.

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Hi Everyone. peethoovie, I guess they didn't sell... But, dang, that is a sexy body style! I can never walk past a 35 or 36 3W Coupe.

I'm still wounded by a very nice Rouge car at Tahoe that'd I'd steal in a heartbeat if it weren't for the pain I'd cause the owner. That, and I don't know where it is!

Oh, Yeah. I was gonna steal Brendan's Pickup at that meet too, so I need a better hauler!

On the car of the discussion here... Loser is out at $67,900, 18 bids.

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I saw no where in the write up anything about it being a "Brizio" built car. It was stated that Brizo put the brakes on it and nothing else that I could see in the article. If he had built it I'm sure it would have been clearly stated as such.

"Runs and drives great starts right up new wheels and tires and brakes done by Roy Brizio Street rods."

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Things wrong in engine comp.Fuel pump no drain petcock, oil filler wrong,headers, no plug wire tubes, all easy to correct.Cliff.

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This is getting weirder and weirder. In case you missed it the listing has ended and relisted. It no longer is "perfect" it is now described as "Complete and stock except the new brakes, untouched in any way..."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191963832040...84.m1436.l2661

Tom

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Since I know many of you are wondering, he wants $70k for it.

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very tangled, could you please tell me what the knob on the upper left side of the dash is for? I have seen several with that spot just an open hole. Thanks---Jim