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Lawrie 07-16-2016 05:08 PM

B29
 

Off topic ,but very interesting,
tomorrow ,sunday morning at 8 am in Whichita kansas the B29 Doc will make its first flight after restoration,the worlds second only flying B29.
there is a live link to the flight.http://www.b-29doc.com/firstflight
Lawrie

petehoovie 07-16-2016 05:30 PM

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'DOC'

Did you know that more money was expended on the B-29 Project than on the Manhattan Project?


http://i1.wp.com/www.b-29doc.com/wp-...fit=1024%2C603

Lawrie 07-16-2016 05:35 PM

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Had the same result though,
I sure wish I could be over to watch.
Lawrie

JSeery 07-16-2016 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrie (Post 1324813)
Had the same result though,
I sure wish I could be over to watch.
Lawrie

I live right next to the old Wichita Airport (where the B29 is located). I'll watch for you Lawrie! I never personaly worked on Doc, but had a lot of friends that did.

V8COOPMAN 07-16-2016 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by petehoovie (Post 1324810)
'DOC'

Did you know that more money was expended on the B-29 Project than on the Manhattan Project?


http://i1.wp.com/www.b-29doc.com/wp-...fit=1024%2C603

I sure hope they glue the vertical stab and rudder on that thing before they crank-up to go. I can't imagine why it's not visible in the pic. DD

Lawrie 07-16-2016 06:15 PM

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Yes, I just have to work out the time difference and get up to watch,
looks like about 11 pm tonight
Lawrie

TonyM 07-16-2016 06:35 PM

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I actually have a piece of that airplane.

VeryTangled 07-16-2016 07:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyM (Post 1324843)
I actually have a piece of that airplane.

Hi Everyone, TonyM, we're hangin' here. What bit of that historic machine do you have?

KGS 07-16-2016 07:19 PM

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Jeff, He probably has the vertical stab and rudder that DD refers to...;)
Ken

VeryTangled 07-16-2016 07:38 PM

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KGS, Yeah, well, I've see the Vert Stab on that beast's sister, in the Air & Space in downtown decades ago, and that just plain don't fit in anybody's garage that I know of! Including a Mr. Hendrick who lives in NC, who pretty much has unlimited space. Easier to store a Space Shuttle than just a vert section of the tail on that one.

Anyone can see the photo has the tail-less, stealth version of the B-29ab! Sheesh!

JSeery 07-16-2016 08:00 PM

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See the center door piece in the hanger door? That's what that center upper door is for.

petehoovie 07-16-2016 08:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 1324832)
I sure hope they glue the vertical stab and rudder on that thing before they crank-up to go. I can't imagine why it's not visible in the pic. DD

Equipped with "vertical stab and rudder""....

http://i0.wp.com/www.b-29doc.com/wp-...fit=1024%2C683
http://i2.wp.com/www.b-29doc.com/wp-...fit=1024%2C683

flatjack9 07-16-2016 08:23 PM

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The other B-29, "Fifi", will be in Oshkosh for the EAA show, the last week in July.

TonyM 07-16-2016 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryTangled (Post 1324858)
Hi Everyone, TonyM, we're hangin' here. What bit of that historic machine do you have?


Boy, I wish it were something dramatic and impressive like a propeller or an instrument, but it is not. When they began the resto, the sponsors were giving away pieces of Doc's discarded aluminum skin to donors and others. A friend from Kansas was involved some how and he sent me a piece of Doc as a gift. A piece of Doc's aluminum with the AAF serial number and the Boeing logo.

JRHASZARD 07-16-2016 09:57 PM

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In 1979 I flew a C-5 for display at Tennessee Aviation Days at Mc Ghee-Tyson, I believe. Wally Schirra came out from Base Ops and asked for a cockpit tour, which I was happy to provide. He said he once thought the B-29 was a huge aircraft and he laughed at how small it seemed under our wing.
Everything is relative.

alanwoodieman 07-16-2016 10:14 PM

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back in 1970/71 I was in the Navy in Charleston SC and lived near the air base there, we were right under the runway takeoff direction and that plane is HUGE and when it flew over everything in the house shook!!. Took my Dad to an air base open house and he just stood there and marveled about its size, at the time two C141's were parked under the wings of it

Binx 07-16-2016 10:46 PM

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Here's a valiant effort to recover another B-29. Made me cry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpR2S_gu5I8

Lonnie

V8 Bob 07-17-2016 06:24 AM

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I missed seeing FiFi about 30 years ago when it was in town, but made sure to see her a couple of weeks ago when it was again in South Bend. I booked a flight in the navigator's seat, the same as my dad trained in. Very memorable.
I'm glad to see there will be another one of these very important airplanes in flight soon for many to enjoy. :)

Angledrive 07-17-2016 09:18 AM

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Well Lawrie, what do you think of that? Pretty impressive, I might say so myself.

Lawrie 07-17-2016 09:46 AM

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that is sooo good,well worth me staying up till 12.45 am.
Lawrie

deuce_roadster 07-17-2016 09:48 AM

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That first link for me doesn't work, due to server issues.
Try this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNckztvXU3I

live stream.

VeryTangled 07-17-2016 11:16 AM

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Hi Everyone, Pretty cool to see that machine flying again.

http://www.b-29doc.com/docs-story/

Binx, that link you posted... Wow, I'm still trying to recover and all I did was watch a video!

sidevalve8ba 07-17-2016 11:26 AM

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Binx, thanks for posting that B-29 story. What a heart-breaker!

Here's another B-29 story that I don't think a lot of people are aware of.

http://b-29s-over-korea.com/shortsto...ssianclone.htm

mike42 07-17-2016 01:10 PM

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That is one Bad Ass Bird !

DavidG 07-17-2016 01:43 PM

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There are restorations and then there are restorations of heroic proportions. Wow!!!

Barry-ct 07-17-2016 02:00 PM

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I know it's past time since it obviously flew, but any of the links posted don't seem to work showing the flight. I'd like to see it, even though it already happened. Any new links?

DavidG 07-17-2016 02:03 PM

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The first one works, but the half-hour's worth of footage to watch runs from 1:28 through 1:58.

38bill 07-17-2016 03:28 PM

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Just search YouTube for anything like "B29 Doc's first flight" and you will find a bunch of videos. There are also some videos of the B29 FiFi at Oshkosh last year including one taken from the cockpit when it was inbound for Oshkosh.

V8COOPMAN 07-17-2016 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-ct (Post 1325261)
I know it's past time since it obviously flew, I'd like to see it.

Takeoff...

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/wp-conte...ly-17-2016.jpg

Landing rollout.....

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/wp-conte...9.36.32-AM.jpg

Bored&Stroked 07-17-2016 04:36 PM

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What an unbelievable effort - and such a beautiful plane! Way to go Doc!

V8COOPMAN 07-17-2016 04:52 PM

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I haven't seen the video. Does anyone know whether or not they retracted the gear on this flight? DD

TonyM 07-17-2016 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 1325346)
I haven't seen the video. Does anyone know whether or not they retracted the gear on this flight? DD

First flight? I am betting they did not.

scrapiron 07-17-2016 04:59 PM

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For those that may be interested,,,A book,,,"Hunting Warbirds" by Carl Hoffman, covers the Kee Bird and other recoverys.

Angledrive 07-17-2016 05:17 PM

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They did not retract the gear as it was the first flight. They had trouble latching the bombbay doors so they had to taxi back and fix them. Flight was suppose to be thirty minutes , but due to taxi time they did not want to run engines more than planned so cut it short to one go around. FiFi crew flew it. The Doc friends did an incredible job taking years to restore this aircraft.

V8COOPMAN 07-17-2016 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scrapiron (Post 1325355)
For those that may be interested,,,A book,,,"Hunting Warbirds" by Carl Hoffman, covers the Kee Bird and other recoverys.


Unfortunately, Greenamyer's half-assed approach to airmanship, as well as his "get-home-itis" and poor planning, destroyed forever that almost-pristine jewel by the name of Kee Bird. We should also not forget that his "lead guy" lost his life for this ill-planned debacle. DD

V8COOPMAN 07-17-2016 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angledrive (Post 1325363)
They did not retract the gear as it was the first flight. They had trouble latching the bombbay doors so they had to taxi back and fix them. Flight was suppose to be thirty minutes , but due to taxi time they did not want to run engines more than planned so cut it short to one go around. FiFi crew flew it. The Doc friends did an incredible job taking years to restore this aircraft.

I knew about the trouble with the bombay doors, but I sure do appreciate all the added details. DD

ford38v8 07-17-2016 06:13 PM

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I have two noobie questions....
First, I thought all such restorations had a tail number with a prefix X ?

Second, I thought protocol on engine starting sequence was to rotate port~starboard, rather than both on one wing then the other wing?

Binx 07-17-2016 06:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 1325364)
Unfortunately, Greenamyer's half-assed approach to airmanship, as well as his "get-home-itis" and poor planning, destroyed forever that almost-pristine jewel by the name of Kee Bird. We should also not forget that his "lead guy" lost his life for this ill-planned debacle. DD

Note to self: turn off APU after generators come online.

Lonnie

Hal Beatty 07-17-2016 08:33 PM

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Congratulations to the team that restored Doc... it's been a LONG haul since it was towed out of China Lake. Now we have two of them in the air!

DavidG 07-17-2016 10:02 PM

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After they fixed the bomb bay doors, it took off again and that flight including taxi time was a half-hour's duration (1:28 to 1:58 on the long video). The landing gear remained down for that flight as well.


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