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I might be off by one year, but I believe it was 23 years ago that I bought this 36 Window Coupe from a fellow some 550 miles away. I had it moved by a moving company, on a back-haul basis, from Southern British Columbia to central Alberta, where I live. With other projects underway, a mortgage, a day-to-day job, and raising 3 kids all on my plate this old girl found it's way to car jacks and a fairly inaccessible corner of my shop. Finally, with a few days off, with nothing absolutely pressing, I dug this car out and dusted if off. I fixed one leaking valve stem, changed the fluids, removed the plugs and applied penetrating oil and generally prepared the car for running once again. This should happen this week. The engine had not seized during the years which had passed. 'Been smiling all weekend!

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Here is a shot of the passenger side of the 36.

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Wow, Ron, it looks like something nice to play with.

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WOW what wee beauty mate Fluids , wiring , brakes & enjoy that babydoll
Have fun ....

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No negative vibes......it'll run. Mine sat for 25 years and it started right up.

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In my opinion it's one of fords best looking designs. What's the plans after getting it running?

http://www.spudsgarage.com/archives/...tation/007.jpg

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Last year for the three window coupe....Don't ruin it by restoring it....

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Tinker, I could not agree more! That body style makes one beautiful old Ford.

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I am restoring a 34 3 Window coupe at present. I really needed a few days off from this work so decided to see exactly I have in the 36 Coupe. Up against a garage wall, I really hadn't seen the right hand side of the car for over two decades.
Frankly, I had forgotten how good this 36 actually is. My vision is to wash the old primer off with gunwash and see what lurks beneath the primed surface. I expect it is simply blotchy paint. I would like to find the correct seat for this car, do the brakes and exhaust and simply drive it as an original car. Ron

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I agree with Tinker re the neat design - but include the 35 as well!:p

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touche' :)


Great plan. Great car!

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I really love the 36 style. I've owned a 2 dr sedan a convertible and a 3 window. Yes put some brakes on it and drive it.

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Both the 35 & 36 are lovely shapes.

Ron your a lucky man to have had that car stored away for so long and it's never deteriorated badly. Looks like it won't take a lot of work to commission the car again - it's been a long time coming but enjoy driving it once it's bsck on the road.

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That car is a real nice colour, it looks very understated. I like the way the modifications are subtle on it.

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Congrats. I wish I had a shop I could hide a 36 in and forget about it. LOL!

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Ron looking good post a video when you start it up and do you still have the 38 Ford Standard Coupe that I sold you 25 years ago?

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Great!!

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Ya i thought the same thing. drop axle, little off the back, and some blackwall big/littles. Looks like it's going 100mpg sitting still.

That deep maroon is nice.

Clean changes without messing anything up that can't be reversed in a weekend.

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Gotta love these 35/36 3w coupes. Definitely one of Henry's finest looking body styles. Hoping to get my 35 3w looking as nice as that 36 above and PeterC's very nice looking 35.

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Im sorry that its taken 23 years to get to it. Make it run, do the brakes and enjoy it every day. You need to make up for lost time...

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Further to post #16 from Steve: Yes the 38 standard coupe remains in the family, too.

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In tinkering under the hood last night I looked for the elusive LB marking on the block. Alas - nothing of the sort. Darn! It is a 21 stud block, aluminum heads, built pre- 937 (no backing plates). The serial number on top of the bell housing is C18v 9802. I assume the original Canadian-manufactured engine remains in the car, which I believe puts this powerplant at mid-year (1936) production. My question is this: there is a very large 3 cast on the block directly above the right water pump (passenger side of the car). Can you confirm for me what this marking means? Thanks.

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Congratulations, sounds like you've got a great project!

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Very Cool Car, love the 3-windows...

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Nothing better than your very own barn find. Great car, like your plan to service, clean and run. Good Luck.

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A barn find in your own barn - not bad! Looking forward to your progress and I agree, one of Henry's best designs ....

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update on this 36 Coupe: My son and i got the 21 stud engine running with little effort. Just routine stuff - points/ condensor, carb kit, plugs, temporary fuel tank. It fired right up. The engine sounded really strong, frankly. Compression decent right though all cylinders. The typical seal leak, however, and within 48 hours 4.5 quarts of oil would follow the path of gravity. This wasn't necessarily a bad thing, though, as there was no marking on the block to signify LB (or not), so i really wanted to check the mains. Was it babbitt or the more desirable insert bearings? i also thought it best to check the sludge level in the pan.

Fast forward a week: it is an LB block/late 36 manufacture. And a surprise bonus - standard bore. The oilpan and pump screen were clean as a whistle. The valves look like new, as do all bearings. Was this vehicle parked right after an overhaul? Who knows? I did find one perplexing thing, at least for me. Check the photos showing two pistons and rods from this same engine. What are the thin pieces of metal affixed to the underside of some of the pistons? They appear to be affixed around the wrist pin and fasten to the inside of the pistons. Some are broken, some are missing. Half of the pistons are equipped in this fashion. i'm going to tank the LB block. Should i reassemble the block as it came apart? Should i find a new set of pistons? Or, should i just remove these metal strips so all match? 'Hope this isn't a stupid question, from a relative novice. Thanks for your input.

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I think those are skirt expanders there was a post about them not too long ago. I like your '36 my Dad had one, the only pictures of it were from the back and front, so I don't know if it was a 3 or 5 window, unfortunately the people that would know are sadly gone.

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Is there any ridge at the top of the bores?
I think I would check the pistons for wear, and remove those remaining skirt expanders. Measure all piston to bore clearances. Check the block carefully after cleaning for any possible issues. Measure crankshaft journals, bearings, large end rod diameters, and any other internal moving parts for wear. If all of this checks good, I would lightly hone the cylinders, install a new set of rings on the pistons, get a quality set of engine gaskets, and reassemble eveything just as it came appart, using assembly lube where needed. There are also many other checks and balances to consider as this goes back together, so hopefully others will add to this list, or correct anything I may be telling you that they feel is wrong.
I don't consider myself an engine guru, but I have taken a good number of these Flathead engines apart, and rebuilt several myself. Always a good feeling when you bring one back to life.

Getter done,...that will be one fun car to have back on the road!!

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If I had a block in-hand like this, I'd spend some time working out any casting sand and wire.

Great story. I have a '35 and a '36 but neither are coupes. :( Maybe I should be happy I have a back seat? :rolleyes:

Edit to add, from my new hero Ronnieroadster "May be a bit off topic but ever try citric acid powder mixed with water? Mixing 8 ounces of powder per gallon of water I completly submerged a flathead block in a tub filled with the citric and water mixture. After a day it came out looking like new iron even inside the water passeges were cleaned.
Same block running in my rear engine modified roadster at Bonneville holds gas blown flathead record at 192.448. Engine ran cool part of the reason was the insides were free of rust citric acid cleaned it perfectly for a lot less money than using a whole lot of evaporust." From post 23 of this thread on rust cleaning... https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...tric&showall=1

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Beautiful , Just get it going like it is and have fun with it! I know first hand as I did the same thing!

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Thanks everyone. As always, superb advice

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love those 35 and 36 3 windows,,,,,,,gotta be the nicest style out there

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Ahh man how sweet is that !

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Sounds like I'm in the minority here; but I would throw a new set of pistons in the mix. The cost of the pistons is relatively low in comparison to the cars value; and while it would probably still be out of spec, new pistons will be good for the rings and usually don't have the annoying rattle of loose skirts.

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You've gotta wonder about the circumstances surrounding the piston expanders being put on in the first place? In this case, standard bore or not, we're guaranteed this isn't the first time this LB's been open.

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My thought, too. Based on no sludge in the pan and squeaky clean valves and piston tops I do not think this engine ran too long after a handyman overhaul. The confusing part is the two broken expanders with zero remnants anywhere in the engine or pan. Do you suggest Egge pistons and rings? Thank you

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I think you'll find Egge will only do 4 ringers for the LB, which is fine if you're happy with that.

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I agree with new pistons, if it required expanders then there was a piston issue with the last rebuild.

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Who owns that beautiful maroon 1936 Ford 3 window and where is it ?