Road Salt Still Doing Damage After 20 Years
 

Years ago my dad would drive his car into the attached unheated garage, and with it came a lot of road salt. I cleaned the floor as well as I could then layed down some free carpet. Any metal, including my tools, that touched the carpet quickly rusted. I removed that carpet and layed down a large sheet of 6 mil plastic, then layed some fresh free carpet over it. It's better, but you can see the salt has still found a way to migrate into the new carpet and is still at work rusting things.

This is a two foot length of perforated square tubing that comes in handy for several things. Here's a picture of it being used to straighten a bent wheel mounting on my mower deck. This tool was setting next to my Model A on the carpet, and you can see how the salt has attacked it, even though it's galvanized. I had sandblasted and painted a lug wrench for a Model AA truck and had it laying on the carpet, and it also rusted and had to be done again.

Next summer I hope I get time to clean out the garage, insulate it, then acid etch the floor and paint it with epoxy paint. I hope that will stop the salt damage.

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Is the carpet holding moisture and causing the rusting? If you lay down pastic on the carpet moisture would form under it and above the carpet?

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DON'T come to CALIFORNIA--We're FILLED UP, it's HARD to even find a PARKING SPACE.
Bill W.

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I know you have undoubtedly thought of this, but check out:

http://www.saltawayproducts.com/ApplicationsPage.htm

Maybe our chemistry-oriented friends can come up with a home brew concoction to neutralize sodium chloride. Can't be too hard.

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Thank you Tom, for reminding me of how great it is to live in California. In today's Socialist mentality in everything that is legislated or regulated or codified, it is a real struggle to enjoy living in California. It really does get to be frustrating and discouraging. And then a little ray of hope comes along to help me get through the massive intrusion to personal and private living in California.

Your 'Salt Story' did such a boost for me. Thank you again Tom. Stories like that help me endure the gradual collapse of a once great state.

P.S. - I have heard of Salt on the roads, etc. I have heard of snow. I have heard of cold - cold so cold that it snaps the whiskers from your beard.
. . . . . I just never experienced it.

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You need to put up some parking signs.:D

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Oh yes, California, I remember it back in the late '50's, '60's and early '70's, it was a good place to live.
Like iI tell all my freinds and Family still there..."You wet your bed, now sleep in it".

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Road salt is not limited to Minnesota (and other "Rust Belt" states by any means! I just retired form the Arizona DOT and here in Northern Arizona we put on 300# of salt per lane per mile per application on I-40 and I-17 and the salt/plow trucks run around the clock during a snow storm. I-40 across Arizona is mostly above 5,000 ft. elevation and Flagstaff at 7,00 ft. sees an average of 100 inches or more of snow a year. Black ice is common, too. I spent many a night down at the shop under an ice-covered truck repairing corroded wiring and light assemblies. Also, a hydraulic hose would get nicked and salt get into the wire braiding. Then the hose would blow and spray oil on top of the ice. Sometimes the cab would rust out around the windshield or the weatherstripping would leak and salt water drip into the ECM. Doesn't help the truck run better! All state highways are salted whenever it snows in AZ high country and we have a lot of high country, so be careful if you a winter trip to or through Arizona!

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Dick Crabtree(he may have restored your pop out switch) retired from Houston to South Dakota. Still hard for me to believe.

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"If it Moves, Tax it. If it Keeps Moving, Regulate it. And if it Stops Moving, Subsidize it"

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Can you flush the garage out with water plus something to neutralize the salt. Maybe laydown a few Chebby parts to grab the salt and use it for the rust process.

how about steam cleaning?

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Have you tried having you sig other scrub the floor for a few hours. I had a problem in the basement with dog pee from former owners so I took her off ironing my shoe laces so she could scrub the floors clean. As a reward I took her to SONIC for some catsup and crackers....

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Where I am anything that sits on concrete will rust.My drive in cellar is dry as a bone,with a woodstove going in it from October to may,but any metal that touches the floor makes ruse.Shelving unit legs,washing machine feet,dryer feet,furnace legs,even the woodstove legs rust.I have an A sitting on car skates in the cellar,I just noticed the bottom inch of the steel wheels are rusted.Concrete is really a hard sponge.

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Tom, thinking about what Keith posted,,,, what if you laid a wooden floor down over your concrete floor?? 2X4 framing insulated with styrofoam sheet, thick plastic sheet down on the concrete, then plywood decking. Using green treated lumber? That may fix the problem throw good used carpet down on top of the plywood?? Treat first for termites? At least spray around the outside edges.

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Are you sure that it's road salt doing that damage or is the efflorescence in original concrete?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efflorescence

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you have a carpeted garage???.......lol

I knocked over 4 litres of used motor oil in the garage today....would hate to have seen what it would have been like if it was carpeted....I used floor epoxy from a company called armour rock...seems to work well.

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I installed a DRICORE 2 Ft. x 2 Ft. DRIcore Engineered Subfloor Panel System in the garage. Works great to keep moisture and condensation at bay.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictur...ictureid=32809

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mop out some water shop vac repeat.

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Never heard of that looks like a good idea---------

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Purchased at Home Depot, Jeff. I store one of my vehicles on a cement floor storage facility and I always see a bit of surface rust in the engine bay, spark plugs, etc.

I keep my roadster in my garage with the sub-flooring and never have an issue with dampness or condensation. Good investment.

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To me, snow is a four letter word (if you get my drift). I have a solution for you, Tom. Escape the great white north and head south. Sell all your vehicles except your collector cars, sell your lawnmower(s), and donate your snow shovels. Leave the heavily salted roads behind. Life is too short to spend a substantial portion of time and energy shoveling snow.

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doesn't it get extremely hot and humid in deep Southern states, and considering that some of us find Model "A"s hot to ride in anyway, I might respectfully decline the various invites to relocate. Granted, it is increasingly hot in the North but the snow is far less than we experienced decades ago. And we have no hurricanes, fire ants, killer bees, alligators, pythons, etc.....just tornadoes.

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Every state has it's drawbacks, gut the south and southwest sure would be nice for at least the 6 months of winter. The dry southwest should be the kindest for our cars. Tomorrow morning I'll see if the rusty tank strap bolts will come out of my Olds so I can repair or replace the rusted fuel lines on my gas tank sender. Life would be much better if it wasn't for man's folly of ethanol and road salt. South Dakota only started using road salt in the 80's and my insurance agent told me it was pushed through by the insurance companies. Used to find a lot of nice old rust free cars in South Dakota, but not anymore. Model A's were plentiful until the late 60's. My uncle said most of them went to California.

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Move to New Orleans. We never salt the roads:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...601dfce86c.jpg

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Yes, there is no perfect place to live. Everywhere has it's drawbacks of some kind.

Orange County and San Diego Counties in SoCal. have the best weather, but the millions of people jammed into Southern California today, not much fun. Bumper stickers that say 'Thank you for leaving Orange County. Take someone with you'. I was told in the 50's and 60's it was pretty nice but word got out and now it's shoulder to shoulder people and traffic. Every other blacktopped/concreted mile is the same boring spat of Corporate America. Wendy's, Taco Bell, McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Super Mex, Long John Silver's, Chevron, Shell, Exxon Mobil, blah blah blah then it starts all over again. And again. And again.

I guess in the whole scheme of things, what difference does it make where you live anyway we're all heading down Cemetery Road? And the more the years roll by the faster and closer the end gets, for all of us:eek::eek::eek:

You don't have to think too hard of just the Model A hobbyists alone, who are gone and just in the last few years----- Roger Kaufman, Dave Lopes come immediately to mind George DeAngelis, Al Lepore, kinda sad-----------

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Add Front Wheel Drive... UGH! hate it... Thankfully not had daily driver with that since 1992.