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Brendan 10-26-2015 07:11 PM

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check out the link , if you have a extra 12 grand you can put a radio in your 32 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-Ford-mo...ow-/3016312161

mrtexas 10-26-2015 07:43 PM

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Needs work as well!

FrankWest 10-26-2015 07:51 PM

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Insane!!!!!

FrankWest 10-26-2015 07:53 PM

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We Antique car lovers may be crazy but we are not DUMB!

Pete 10-26-2015 08:27 PM

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That would be a fair price if it had been restored but it needs a LOT of work.

FrankWest 10-26-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 1178900)
That would be a fair price if it had been restored but it needs a LOT of work.

Wow! Are they really that rare? What a difference a year makes. A 1933 restored is approx 500 dollars. For a Zenith that is, maybe the Grigsby Grunowis more? I have heard that the Zenith 1933 is a better radio than the Grigsby Grunowis?

Pete 10-26-2015 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankWest (Post 1178921)
Wow! Are they really that rare? What a difference a year makes. A 1933 restored is approx 500 dollars. For a Zenith that is, maybe the Grigsby Grunowis more? I have heard that the Zenith 1933 is a better radio than the Grigsby Grunowis?

A restored radio looks and operates exactly as it would right out of the original factory box. This entails completely stripping all parts from the chassis, replating it, finding or reproducing exactly all internal parts that are aged or worn etc etc. Considering the age of that radio, I would guess it would take at least a year to do the job.
I was recently involved in the restoration of a 10 kilowatt HF transmitter and that took 8 people 5 years.
I wouldn't want to pay for that job...lol

51 MERC-CT 10-26-2015 09:27 PM

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And still has the nerve to want $20 for shipping :confused:

deuce_roadster 10-26-2015 09:32 PM

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I don't know of anywhere you can get a properly restored 33 radio for $500. 12k for a 32 fixer is a bit excessive.

gearhead1952 10-26-2015 11:16 PM

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I bet if the caps were replaced it would play. Looks pretty clean. I don't know about 12k tho.

itsa52 10-27-2015 06:43 AM

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Or this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-Ford-Or...item4af29fc6c2

Walt Dupont--Me. 10-27-2015 07:37 AM

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Could I get Willie's Roadhouse on that radio? Walt

FrankWest 10-27-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce_roadster (Post 1178943)
I don't know of anywhere you can get a properly restored 33 radio for $500. 12k for a 32 fixer is a bit excessive.

Two years ago I bought one for 500$.
If I had to pay 12k for a radio, I would install a hidden digital system.
For 12 K I could get that 1930 model A coup I was looking at!

48 coupe 10-27-2015 08:53 AM

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It's only money. If you have all the money you will ever need and you don't have all the radios you need, buy it. Then you will have the best of both worlds.

mfagan 10-27-2015 09:12 AM

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Damn, no longer listed!

Brendan 10-27-2015 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Dupont--Me. (Post 1179065)
Could I get Willie's Roadhouse on that radio? Walt

that would be kool!

DavidG 10-27-2015 09:50 PM

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At least both referenced radios are really '32s judging from the speaker brackets. The most commonly encountered so-called '32 radios are actually '33 models with much simplified speaker brackets. (The glove box radio was not released by Ford until August, 1933; that's what those rectangular depressions in the floors of '33s are for, namely where to cut to create the openings to insert the motor generator and receiver boxes)

Both referenced radios are incomplete as they are missing their original running board antennas. The antenna with the $12K version is a replacement and does not conform to the original except in general appearance. (See page A-19-7 in The 1932 Ford Book.)

Karl Wescott 10-28-2015 09:10 AM

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And memories... Back in the late 1970's a swapper at the LA roadster show was showing off the NOS 1932 radio head he had found in a $1 box. Happy guy.

Vic Piano 10-28-2015 09:25 AM

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Wow, it must produce rich tones...;)

Bored&Stroked 10-28-2015 09:58 AM

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It pukes gold coins . . . right outta the damn speaker . . . really it does . . .

But then again, sometimes I wonder at the prices I've had to pay for some "rare" 32 engine parts - it is all supply and demand in the end . . .

FrankWest 10-28-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1179649)
At least both referenced radios are really '32s judging from the speaker brackets. The most commonly encountered so-called '32 radios are actually '33 models with much simplified speaker brackets. (The glove box radio was not released by Ford until August, 1933; that's what those rectangular depressions in the floors of '33s are for, namely where to cut to create the openings to insert the motor generator and receiver boxes)

Both referenced radios are incomplete as they are missing their original running board antennas. The antenna with the $12K version is a replacement and does not conform to the original except in general appearance. (See page A-19-7 in The 1932 Ford Book.)

Wow! Very complicated...I am so glad I fell in love with the 1933 rather than the 1932!

32sedan 04-24-2016 01:53 AM

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I've got that exact radio in my 32 except my radio looks like it's brand new. However, I am missing the correct running board antenna. I would put a running board antenna on my car if I found one just for originality but, frankly, those running board antennas are garbage. They are fairly obstructed by the running board and they really come and go depending on the direction you are traveling and whether the antenna is aligned with the radio station's radio waves. I've heard you can turn the 'chicken wire' in the car top into a good antenna if you isolate it from the rest of the car body. I might look into that. There also used to be an aftermarket kit back in the day that you could buy to turn the rear-mounted spare tire wheel into an antenna. I don't know how well they work but it's kind of an intriguing idea as long as I don't have to drill anything on my car. No drilling! I don't do anything on my car that cannot be absolutely undone back to original

Deuce-Addict 04-24-2016 03:52 AM

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A friend gave me a bundle of old V8 Times magazines, in an issue from 1974 there was a chap called Leo Gephart from Ohio who advertised perfect reproduction 1932 running board antennae. They were $95, not sure of equivalent today (I was aged 2 in 1974!) but in the same issue were very good condition 3 window doors for $100!

Kube 04-24-2016 07:45 AM

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[QUOTE=32sedan;1282755] I've heard you can turn the 'chicken wire' in the car top into a good antenna if you isolate it from the rest of the car body. I might look into that.


I did this when restoring my brother's 1931 Buick. It worked very well. The chicken wire is fastened to the wooden inner body structure so isolation from metal was a non-issue.

DavidG 04-24-2016 08:46 AM

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The rear spare wheel antenna came into being during the '33 model year for use on open cars, which of course had no chicken wire in their top construction. Dennis Carpenter at one time offered a complete kit replicating the original. The critical aspect of it is the insulation of the spare tire bracket from the body sheet metal.

Unlike in a '33-'34 closed car, the chicken wire in a '32 closed car roof is in direct contact with the sheet metal of the roof and it would have to be trimmed back away from the edges to eliminate that contact. About the only feasible way to accomplish that would entail having to redo the top insert which is a pretty big undertaking.

I'm not sure that the radio reception with both pieces of an original '32 running board antenna would be all that bad as it had both a horizontal and vertical orientation as shown in the photos below. Finding both original components would be a real challenge and then there would the momentous decisions to drill four holes through the running board to attach the horizontal section and to cut two big rectangular chunks out of the floor pan to accommodate the receiver and motor generator.

Bored&Stroked 04-25-2016 07:45 AM

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Thanks David G! I know that as much as I appreciate original stuff, can't imagine that I'd want to mount that antennae on my car - regardless of how rare it is. It is cool to see some of these original parts in photos - just to ponder their designs.

Take Care,
Dale

Kube 04-25-2016 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1282861)
The rear spare wheel antenna came into being during the '33 model year for use on open cars, which of course had no chicken wire in their top construction. Dennis Carpenter at one time offered a complete kit replicating the original. The critical aspect of it is the insulation of the spare tire bracket from the body sheet metal.

Unlike in a '33-'34 closed car, the chicken wire in a '32 closed car roof is in direct contact with the sheet metal of the roof and it would have to be trimmed back away from the edges to eliminate that contact. About the only feasible way to accomplish that would entail having to redo the top insert which is a pretty big undertaking.

I'm not sure that the radio reception with both pieces of an original '32 running board antenna would be all that bad as it had both a horizontal and vertical orientation as shown in the photos below. Finding both original components would be a real challenge and then there would the momentous decisions to drill four holes through the running board to attach the horizontal section and to cut two big rectangular chunks out of the floor pan to accommodate the receiver and motor generator.

Very interesting. That '31 Buick chicken wire was fastened directly to the wood structure within the roof area. That made my job fairly easy. I did not realize Fords were constructed differently.

Steves46 04-25-2016 09:41 AM

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Maybe a fat finger mistake and listed one too many zeros?

DavidG 04-25-2016 10:01 AM

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Dale,

I share your thinking with regard to the antenna. I once had it all, including both the "mud flap" and horizontal portions of the antenna and could not bring my self to make the holes in either the floor and running board. The whole 100 yards ended up with Bob Slack (r.i.p.) at the V-8 Grand National Meet in Tulsa in 1978.

Mike,

The chicken wire on '33-'34 closed cars does not touch the body sheet metal and they came with an antenna lead snaked down through the right side A-pillar. It's only the '32s where the chicken wire is not isolated.


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