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ford31 05-18-2015 09:48 AM

motor/gas tank additives
 

what(if any) is a good additive to keep things working for model a's not driven much

eagle 05-18-2015 10:13 AM

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A little Marvel Mystery oil in the tank at fillup if its going to sit much. Definitely use premium no-alcohol gas if it is available in your area, it is here and I won't run anything else.

ford31 05-18-2015 11:21 AM

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must be something to mystery oil,my dad whos gone now,was never without his mystery oil,his car and anything that had a motor got mystery oil,and seemed to run forever,guess I forgot that,thanks for reminder

Tom Wesenberg 05-18-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eagle (Post 1087797)
A little Marvel Mystery oil in the tank at fillup if its going to sit much. Definitely use premium no-alcohol gas if it is available in your area, it is here and I won't run anything else.

X 2, plus clean oil in the engine when it's stored.

My cars set for 6 to 7 months over road salt season, otherwise they get driven now and then during the summer. I don't drive just to be driving, but I would like to do some travelling to visit places I've never seen. I've never been to the west coast, and never driven along the east coast. I'd also like to do what's left of Route 66 before it's all gone.

glenn in camino 05-18-2015 07:34 PM

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Snake oil.

Chuck Sea/Tac 05-18-2015 08:10 PM

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Toms right about clean oil when storing. Along with that is when ever its started, and not going to be restarted soon, warm the engine up to temp plus some time. That helps evaporate moisture in the oil, ect that comes from combustion.

Mike V. Florida 05-18-2015 11:09 PM

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MM, Sea Foam are about the only things that could do some good that could be added to fuel.

JD 1931 05-19-2015 09:33 AM

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Marvel mystery oil at fill ups....

30aadoodlebug 05-19-2015 12:29 PM

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I run Marvel Mystery Oil and a splash of generic lead substitute. All three of my A's seem to be happy thus far.

Mad Mac 05-19-2015 03:17 PM

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What about Morey's upper cylinder lubricant? Not sure if MMO is available here in New Zealand

Nabco 05-19-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 30aadoodlebug (Post 1088524)
I run Marvel Mystery Oil and a splash of generic lead substitute. All three of my A's seem to be happy thus far.

I was told not to add lead substitute because lead was not added to gas until the early 50's....does more harm then good

Nick

Tom Wesenberg 05-19-2015 06:13 PM

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Actually gas had lead by the late 20's, but Model A's and most of our older cars do fine without it. The plugs last much longer and the oil stays cleaner.

dlfrisch 05-19-2015 09:02 PM

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From past experiences - I use Marvel Mystery Oil to all of my mechanical machinery. I add 3 or 4 oz. to my full tank of gas in my "A", add a bit to my pressure washer, generator, lawn mower, etc. and if I remember....we (my wife and I) add a couple of ounces to our Harley Davidsons. It seems to keep fuel machinery from deteriorating and helps to keep fuel from varnishing-up from long storage times.

Skibb 05-19-2015 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dlfrisch (Post 1088836)
From past experiences - I use Marvel Mystery Oil to all of my mechanical machinery. I add 3 or 4 oz. to my full tank of gas in my "A", add a bit to my pressure washer, generator, lawn mower, etc. and if I remember....we (my wife and I) add a couple of ounces to our Harley Davidsons. It seems to keep fuel machinery from deteriorating and helps to keep fuel from varnishing-up from long storage times.

Ditto

norcalal 05-19-2015 11:20 PM

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MM oil is fine from all I have spoken with, However I always use ATF (Any kind) and it has always worked wonders as as fuel stabilizer, and wont vapor lock on hot days. Cheap and works. Does it get any better than that?

30aadoodlebug 05-20-2015 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Mac (Post 1088617)
What about Morey's upper cylinder lubricant? Not sure if MMO is available here in New Zealand

It should be available. If not, send me your address and I'll send you a case from the states. Wouldn't run an 'A' without it.

updraught 05-20-2015 06:29 AM

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It says roughly: In 1927 approx. 14%of cars were high compression (5 to 1 or higher). By 1928 it was 56%. 1929 77%. Don't think Henry believed in lead.

fredski 05-20-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by glenn in camino (Post 1088133)
Snake oil.

I never tried snake oil or ever seen it for sale, but I am sold on
Sea foam.

Fredski

BlueSunoco 05-20-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by updraught (Post 1088960)
Attachment 224786

It says roughly: In 1927 approx. 14%of cars were high compression (5 to 1 or higher). By 1928 it was 56%. 1929 77%. Don't think Henry believed in lead.

Believe you are on to something as I read once where Tetra Ethyl Lead additive was developed at GM laboratories, and Mr. Ford hated paying royalties or supporting any of his competition in any way financially.

One reason Ford Benzol was developed plus it was a Ford by-product? Benzol was only available in the Detroit area. A Ford Benzol gasoline globe is a rare and very desirable collectible.

raprice22 05-20-2015 11:53 AM

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I routinely all Sta-bil to my gas tank after every fill up. I don't trust modern gasoline to remain stable while the car sits in the garage.
Rog

California Travieso 05-20-2015 03:05 PM

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Fredski,

I don't know about Canada, but I hear there're a lot of snake oil salesmen in Florida. I understand they also sell real estate.

Here in the California desert we make our own. Almost every one has a wringer from old washing machine. We just catch a rattle snake and put it through the wringer. Works great on just about anything on a Model A, e.g., gas, steer box, transmission, rear end, etc.

fredski 05-21-2015 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by California Travieso (Post 1089223)
Fredski,

I don't know about Canada, but I hear there're a lot of snake oil salesmen in Florida. I understand they also sell real estate.

Here in the California desert we make our own. Almost every one has a wringer from old washing machine. We just catch a rattle snake and put it through the wringer. Works great on just about anything on a Model A, e.g., gas, steer box, transmission, rear end, etc.


Okay I get it now my wife explained it to me,,

Learn something everyday

Fredski

marc hildebrant 05-21-2015 08:54 AM

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I have used Marvel Mystery Oil in my car, per the directions on the container, for a number of years.

Car starts in the spring after a winter storage with no problem and the vapor lock problem stopped.

Marc

Mike V. Florida 05-21-2015 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by California Travieso (Post 1089223)
Fredski,

I don't know about Canada, but I hear there're a lot of snake oil salesmen in Florida. I understand they also sell real estate.

.

Gator oil not snake oil. As a matter of fact I do have some beautiful real estate for sale, real private plenty of wildlife.

FrankWest 05-21-2015 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JD 1931 (Post 1088422)
Marvel mystery oil at fill ups....

how much MMO do you add at fillups? Just a dash or entire quart???

Scott Hall 05-21-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankWest (Post 1089604)
how much MMO do you add at fillups? Just a dash or entire quart???

I add about 4oz to about 10 gal. of fuel.

BILL WILLIAMSON 05-21-2015 10:25 AM

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I NEVER tole Minerva that I NEVER added any Snake Oil, Panther Piss, ur ANYTHING, & she always ran GOOD!
I "think" most additives are just to make sum guy RICH & he can buy a 2 acre island, sit in the sun, drink XXX BEER, & scratch when the SAND FLEAS BITE!
Bill W.

Bob Johnson 05-21-2015 10:38 AM

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On my way back from the 2014 MAFCA National in Washington my engine started to act like it was not getting enough fuel ("vapor lock"). The ambient temperature was above 100 degrees and I was going up hills. The engine temperature hit 195 degrees (it was normally 180 degrees). I opened up the GAV 2 to 3 full turns and the engine started running normal again. At the next gas stop I cooled off the carburetor and added some Mystery Oil to the gas. The engine ran fine until the next series of hills. Again it started to loose power. I opened up the GAV and was running fine again. My conclusion is that Marvelous Mystery Oil does not prevent "vapor lock" in my Model A.


Bob

Tom Wesenberg 05-21-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankWest (Post 1089604)
how much MMO do you add at fillups? Just a dash or entire quart???

Drive to Aldi and buy a 4 pack of tapioca pudding for 88 cents. Eat one and use the empty cup for your 4 ounce measure.:D

BILL WILLIAMSON 05-21-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1089647)
Drive to Aldi and buy a 4 pack of tapioca pudding for 88 cents. Eat one and use the empty cup for your 4 ounce measure.:D

Now that's a GOOD IDEA! Now, DON'T put a spoon full of TAPIOCA in the GES tank:eek:
Bill W.

Y-Blockhead 05-21-2015 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by California Travieso (Post 1089223)
Fredski,
Here in the California desert we make our own. Almost every one has a wringer from old washing machine. We just catch a rattle snake and put it through the wringer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredski (Post 1089063)
I never tried snake oil or ever seen it for sale, but I am sold on
Sea foam.

Fredski

Snake Oil is good if you can find it but livin' at the Beach I prefer Sea Foam...:cool:

BlueSunoco 05-21-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON (Post 1089659)
Now that's a GOOD IDEA! Now, DON'T put a spoon full of TAPIOCA in the GES tank:eek:
Bill W.

Unless it's Frog Eye tapioca:eek:


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