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LazarusLong 04-09-2015 03:07 AM

Why no Ford flat 4 and 6 sections?
 

Granted they aren't as popular as bent flatheads,but they do have a following. You could even combine them and people that like inline flatties would have a place to go to discuss them.

I am personally a big fan on inline 6's,and I can't be the only one here that likes them.

Mike B 04-09-2015 05:41 AM

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Well, the forum is called "Early V8", that said, anyone with a '32 to 53? Ford is welcome.

alanwoodieman 04-09-2015 07:10 AM

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I have a 4 banger in a 41 1/2 ton truck , in addition I also have three other V8's. The look of the truck draws a lot of people and when they look under the hood even more stares!!

amodel25 04-09-2015 07:42 AM

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Have a slightly modified 6 in my '51 and building a second one for a '49 coupe

Scott H in Wheaton 04-09-2015 07:43 AM

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To me a flat four is a volkswagen pancake engine

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike B (Post 1066073)
Well, the forum is called "Early V8", that said, anyone with a '32 to 53? Ford is welcome.

Maybe,but there is a car or truck surrounding the engine,and some of those cars and trucks had flat 4 or 6 engines.

Rowdy 04-09-2015 07:46 AM

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In the aviation world that would be horizonally opposed, not flat. Why that never translated to the auto world one may never know. Rod

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by alanwoodieman (Post 1066103)
I have a 4 banger in a 41 1/2 ton truck , in addition I also have three other V8's. The look of the truck draws a lot of people and when they look under the hood even more stares!!

There are a lot of people who don't even know you could get a flathead 6 in 40's and early 50's Fords,and probably fewer that knew you could get one in a 40 or 41 pickup.

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by amodel25 (Post 1066119)
Have a slightly modified 6 in my '51 and building a second one for a '49 coupe


I'm planning on dual carbs,split exhaust,and a finned aluminum head (if I can find one) for my car,too.

I'm also going to install a dual-outlet master cylinder under the floor for safety reasons,and use 45-50 taillights and eliminate the ugly (in my mind) chrome taillight extensions on both sides of the rear.

Other than those modifications along with skinny radial tires,I plan on keeping it stock.

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott H in Wheaton (Post 1066121)
To me a flat four is a volkswagen pancake engine

That would probably be true anywhere but on a web site dedicated to flathead Fords.

DD931 04-09-2015 08:13 AM

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It seems we are just in line with the Early Ford V8 Club, who recognizes anything Ford made from '32 through '53. Ford, Mercury, Lincoln. V-12, V-8, I-6 and 4 (Model B and later). I like it this way. I have a six, but enjoy the broader discussions. The cars are the same, just the engines are different!! Besides, maybe I'll come across a V-8 that follows me home!!

done4 04-09-2015 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott H in Wheaton (Post 1066121)
To me a flat four is a volkswagen pancake engine

Off base bud, I have both and I prefer the 4 banger. To me if it's an early Ford engine it has a home here.

flatford8 04-09-2015 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LazarusLong (Post 1066132)
I'm planning on dual carbs,split exhaust,and a finned aluminum head (if I can find one) for my car,too.

I'm also going to install a dual-outlet master cylinder under the floor for safety reasons,and use 45-50 taillights and eliminate the ugly (in my mind) chrome taillight extensions on both sides of the rear.

Other than those modifications along with skinny radial tires,I plan on keeping it stock.

I like what your planning.... Is it in that coupe?...MARK

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DD931 (Post 1066145)
It seems we are just in line with the Early Ford V8 Club, who recognizes anything Ford made from '32 through '53. Ford, Mercury, Lincoln. V-12, V-8, I-6 and 4 (Model B and later). I like it this way. ...

Me,too. I had forgotten all about the V-12 Lincolns.

Maybe we should just have a "Not a V-8" section to discuss and learn about all of them?:)

BILL WZOREK 04-09-2015 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LazarusLong (Post 1066134)
That would probably be true anywhere but on a web site dedicated to flathead Fords.

Kick off the Bold Capital letters & larger size :eek: it makes people think you are MAD !!!

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by flatford8 (Post 1066155)
I like what your planning.... Is it in that coupe?...MARK


Yup! I finally found a coupe close to home that runs (excellently) and drives that has never been restored or modified that I could afford.

It even had a clean title with matching VIN numbers and I only had to pay about a thousand more than it was worth to get it!

Only took about 10 years to find,and I've had it for 4 four days now. The engine runs perfectly without the slightest trace of smoke or noise,and the trans doesn't grind in gear. I have already spent a bunch of money to completly replace the brake system,new fuel pump,new seals for the rear cover and the gas tank sending u nit,new gas tank rubber,etc,etc,etc. It is at my friends garage right now to have the work done on his lift,and to have the drums turned if they need it. I should be driving it next week if Stop Leak will stop the weeping high on my radiator. If not,I'm going to have to park it until I can afford to buy a new radiator or a new core (if I can find one) for my original top and bottom tanks.

I want to paint it that beautiful medium dark green that Ford used,but it looks like it may have been either blue or pale yellow originally. Once I figure out the codes to see what the original color was,that is probably what it will get painted.

Going to be a semi-daily driver car,not a restored show car.

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BILL WZOREK (Post 1066184)
Kick off the Bold Capital letters & larger size :eek: it makes people think you are MAD !!!

It should make people think I have trouble seeing.

I wish everyone used bold and larger fonts.

HELENT 04-09-2015 10:44 AM

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what part of nc are you from:)

Charlie Stephens 04-09-2015 11:54 AM

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Speaking as the owner of two '32 Fords with 4 cylinder engines I like the fact that there is not a separate section for them. I like not having to go through several "buckets" when I visit a site. The Early Ford V8 Club site is an excellent example of the "several buckets" situation.

Charlie Stephens

JSeery 04-09-2015 12:09 PM

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So much of the cars are similar they should fit right in. If you look back through the post a high percentage of them are 4 cylinder or V12 (haven't seen a lot of 6 cyl).

hardtimes 04-09-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DD931 (Post 1066145)
It seems we are just in line with the Early Ford V8 Club, who recognizes anything Ford made from '32 through '53. Ford, Mercury, Lincoln. V-12, V-8, I-6 and 4 (Model B and later). I like it this way. I have a six, but enjoy the broader discussions. The cars are the same, just the engines are different!! Besides, maybe I'll come across a V-8 that follows me home!!

I agree with your statements !
I've owned all of the flathead types that you've mentioned, and wish that I'd been able to keep them all :)!
This site/forum is JUST RIGHT, leave it as it is, as it is the best forum that Ryan has, IMO,

JSeery 04-09-2015 12:17 PM

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I agree with that!

Scott H in Wheaton 04-09-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by done4 (Post 1066153)
Off base bud, I have both and I prefer the 4 banger. To me if it's an early Ford engine it has a home here.

I think you misunderstand my intention, it was not to compare the Ford engine to the Volkswagon engine but rather the wording being used.

Tell me 4-banger and I think of FORD
Tell me 'flat four' and I think of Volkswagon

My best friend has a 30 Model A with a four banger and I love the car.

mustang8 04-09-2015 12:36 PM

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What is the HP for one of the small straight 4 cyls also for the straight 6 cyls that are in say the 50 ford trucks?

amodel25 04-09-2015 01:18 PM

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226 cu in 6 cyl is 95 horsepower. These were put in cars and trucks up to F5. A 254 cu in version was used in F6 trucks and school busses. It is rated at 115 hp.

mustang8 04-09-2015 02:07 PM

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Wow and to think the flathead 8ba's are only 100. Might as well hop up a 6 for the money difference!

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mustang8 (Post 1066362)
Wow and to think the flathead 8ba's are only 100. Might as well hop up a 6 for the money difference!

Yup,and being inlines,they make more torque,too.

They suddenly got more interesting,didn't they?:)

mustang8 04-09-2015 02:42 PM

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I had one in my old 51 pickup but never messed with getting it running. sold it and bought one in way better shape with the v8. However im going to be starting a model A rat rod project and have been going back and forth about what motor to put in it. Quite possibly a hopped up I6!

Barry B./ Ma. 04-09-2015 02:52 PM

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Had a late 49 six tudor since new, one of the quickest and best cars I ever owned.

amodel25 04-09-2015 03:42 PM

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Speed equipment is kind of hard to find and pricey when you do but its fun to see peoples faces when they look under the hood expecting a V8 or a small block Chevy or Ford.

I have a 1950 issue of Mechanix Illustrated where Tom McCahill is comparing a 1950 Ford 6 to a V8. The six will outrun the V8 up to the last 200 feet of a quarter mile.

hardtimes 04-09-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by amodel25 (Post 1066413)
Speed equipment is kind of hard to find and pricey when you do but its fun to see peoples faces when they look under the hood expecting a V8 or a small block Chevy or Ford.

I have a 1950 issue of Mechanix Illustrated where Tom McCahill is comparing a 1950 Ford 6 to a V8. The six will outrun the V8 up to the last 200 feet of a quarter mile.

Brings back some fond memories of the flat six in my '50 , no speed equipment, that used to stomp the V8s, just as you state....until the last 200 feet ! Of course, these 1/4 miles were back in hills and may have been off a 'bit' !

LazarusLong 04-09-2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mustang8 (Post 1066387)
I had one in my old 51 pickup but never messed with getting it running. sold it and bought one in way better shape with the v8. However im going to be starting a model A rat rod project and have been going back and forth about what motor to put in it. Quite possibly a hopped up I6!

Good luck finding a car or pu 226. The 25x big truck 6 might be easier to find,but will be more expensive to rebuild,and there will be virtually no speed parts available for it. There are very few available for the 226,and what is available is pretty pricey.

If the flathead 6 doesn't work for you,take a look at the OHV 223 or 300 cubic inch 6's. Lots of stuff available for the 300 and some for the 223 and it's priced pretty reasonable.

Or just go for a Y-Block V-8. Back in the late 50's they were beating SBC's like rented mules. Then Ford pulled out of racing and GM didn't.

Gumpy 04-09-2015 08:22 PM

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I would recommend looking through the social groups we have on this website, if there are no flat 4 or flat 6 groups you could open your own and invite others..Gump

ford38v8 04-09-2015 09:35 PM

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It's all good the way it is. Start creating new sections and first thing you know there'd be a section for rat rods and a section for mall crawlers and who knows what else. Early Ford V8 covers 32 - 53 with all the engines.

4tl8ford 04-10-2015 06:37 AM

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Has anyone mentioned that there are active Model T and Model A Forums - As far as the flat 6 I will post my info on the V8 Forum because I know there are people here who secretly love them

amodel25 04-10-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LazarusLong (Post 1066523)
Good luck finding a car or pu 226. The 25x big truck 6 might be easier to find,but will be more expensive to rebuild,and there will be virtually no speed parts available for it. There are very few available for the 226,and what is available is pretty pricey.

If the flathead 6 doesn't work for you,take a look at the OHV 223 or 300 cubic inch 6's. Lots of stuff available for the 300 and some for the 223 and it's priced pretty reasonable.

Or just go for a Y-Block V-8. Back in the late 50's they were beating SBC's like rented mules. Then Ford pulled out of racing and GM didn't.

I've had better luck finding 226's than the 254. I stumbled on to it thinking I was buying a 226 on E**y. It turned out to be a 254 that someone had transplanted into a '48 Ford half ton. I am building that engine to go in my '49 coupe. The 226 and 254 share all internal parts except the head gasket, pistons and rings. The 254 rods and block are beefier but they use the same cam, main and rod bearings as the 226.

mercman from oz 04-10-2015 04:41 PM

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4, 6, 8 or 12, it doesn't matter. They are all on display at the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum in Auburn Indiana. The Heading as it reads now covers all engine types, just as the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum includes all engine types, so long as they were produced from 1932 to 1953. This Museum is a very worthwhile place to visit and highly recommended.


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