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Bob Bidonde 12-24-2014 10:39 AM

Tips For Model A's
 

The purpose of this post is to collect tips for Model "A's." Post your tips to keep this thread going.

o Gear Shift Rust Protection: Slip a piece of clear PVC tubing over the gear shift to keep it from corroding where it comes into contact with the driver's leg.

o Loose Hub Cap: Wrap waxed string between the cap and the wheel to snug a loose hub cap so both ends of the string protrude. Secure the string by tieing a square not, and clip the protruding ends.

o Pull the back window shade down to prevent reflections on the windshield while driving at night.

o Dome Light Ground: Dome lights mounted in wood are poorly grounded. Add a ground wire from the metal light body to a body bolt to assure the light will work.

Brentwood Bob 12-24-2014 11:26 AM

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When you park the car shut the gas off and run the car dry. This avoids gas loss, and keeps the float valve from sticking on startup.

Gooseloony 12-24-2014 12:07 PM

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Install a "pencil filter" in the fuel tank.

Mitch//pa 12-24-2014 12:11 PM

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don't just become a parts replacer.. learn how to diagnose, and determine the cause of your problem..

Mikeinnj 12-24-2014 12:28 PM

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If it ain't broken, don't fix it !

tbirdtbird 12-24-2014 12:40 PM

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"When you park the car shut the gas off and run the car dry. This avoids gas loss, and keeps the float valve from sticking on startup."

Bob, if you never put any gas in the tank it can never leak out!

Merry Christmas!

Big hammer 12-24-2014 12:42 PM

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Ask here before doing work if your not sure And then post a reply when fixed
It helps us all :-)

Brentwood Bob 12-24-2014 01:13 PM

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Confusion rules me these days,
So I need to have a good shutdown procedure.
gas was up to $4/gal and stayed along time, so I hate it when the float valve decides to stick. usually I notice an empty tank.

Marshall57 12-24-2014 01:35 PM

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Read, read, and read.
It’s cheap and easy, and also gives you a great insight into what others have done or tried, no use reinventing the wheel.
I have lots of Model A books, some gifts and some I purchased and when I have some time I go through them. Some like “Tiny Tips” and “Model A Miseries and cures” are full of nuggets of knowledge.
When you finally get to the work most practical knowledge can be gleaned here, folks here can sure fill in the blanks and help you out.
Best tip is when you change heads, engines, radiators, water pumps, hoses, or anything else to do with the cooling system, put a nylon stocking around the top radiator hose and let it filter the water coming from the head into the radiator.
The amount of stuff you get away from the radiator will be amazing and will diminish after a while. Change or clean the stocking every little while and when it no longer is catching gunk you can discard it altogether.
Small ideas can make a huge difference,

Marshall57 12-24-2014 01:44 PM

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Next tip.
When changing out an oil Pan or an engine, you will put a quart down the distributor hole and then use the rest of the five quarts to fill it up.
The tip is measure the five quarts carefully (if using bulk oil) and after running the car for just a bit and letting it cool, check and note where the oil level is on your particular dip stick.
When changing the oil later this mark will be important, and with so many aftermarket dipsticks out there the full mark could be off.
Trying to keep a Model A over full is an everlasting headache.

Not George 12-24-2014 02:28 PM

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Learn from other people's mistakes, learning from your own is expensive.

Terry, NJ 12-24-2014 02:42 PM

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Some tips,
-List your location! You may have a member across town who'll be glad to help you.
-Many problems are not that solvable until everyone's on the same page, try to be clear about where the knock is from or whatever.
- Don't use "patchatini" repair methods for longer than it takes to get home. these "Farmer fix" methods went out with the fifties. Very few of us can't afford most repairs
today. Bubble gum, bailing wire and oatmeal in the radiator are thankfully gone for good.
-To many of us go the other way sometimes too! "My engine costs $12,000 from XYZ Power Plants! " "Yeah well, Mine costs $15,000 from Bazooka Mottor". Hell! you should have done it yourself for $2-3000!
"Get out of your comfort zone!" There are jobs that we'd never try on our own because we don't have any experience with that skill. Welding, Carpentry, engine mechanics, body work, upholestry and painting, etc. But think how much pride it will give you when you do take them on and they turn out pretty darn good. Some of them won't turn out good the first time and you may have have to scrap them and start again. Think it didn't happen at the Ford co. in 1930? Every one makes some scrap.
Terry

1930artdeco 12-24-2014 02:49 PM

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Here is a tip for the first timer: When you buy your Model A, drop the pan and check the bearings. Then check the valves. This will keep your engine alive a lot longer than pouring in new oil and starting her up. Never take the previous owners word for it unless proven on paper.

Mike

Brentwood Bob 12-24-2014 02:50 PM

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Make one change at a time, and save the old parts.

MAG 12-24-2014 02:57 PM

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When parking for extended time or storing the Model A, pull the fuse out. If not equipped with a fuse, install one.

pooch 12-24-2014 03:37 PM

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Do not park too close to Chevs, rust is contagious.

Dan Partain 12-24-2014 03:59 PM

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For those who haven't seen this before - To chase dirty or rusty threads, grind bolts with the same thread and run them into the holes that need cleaning. The sharp leading edge of the threads will do a pretty good job, and not ruin a good tap from grease/dirt combo. Regular hardware bolts work good for this and are cheap to replace when the threads get worn. I try to not use good A bolts if I can help it.

al's28/33 12-24-2014 04:05 PM

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Check all your wiring connections every few months or so and tighten up all those nuts and bolts along with oil and lube every 500 miles. Keep up with maintenance ALWAYS!

Tim Armstrong 12-24-2014 04:12 PM

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Old gas is your enemy. Never cook bacon with out a shirt on.

msmaron 12-24-2014 04:13 PM

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Learn to diagnose your problems and DONT DIVE BOMB....90% of the time it is NOT THE COIL!!!!

JBill 12-24-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by msmaron (Post 1003881)
Learn to diagnose your problems and DONT DIVE BOMB....90% of the time it is NOT THE COIL!!!!

Yes, 90% of the time it's the condensor!

rusted 12-24-2014 04:35 PM

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ALWAYS remember to turn on the gas. Then when it still will not start, turn on the ignition!!

Charlie Stephens 12-24-2014 04:42 PM

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Remember to read and use the lubrication chart. Don't miss the throttle shaft as it runs behind the engine, the generator and the distributor. Remember that the lube fittings on the rear end are not intended to be filled with a pressure gun until the grease comes out somewhere.

Charlie Stephens

Purdy Swoft 12-24-2014 04:56 PM

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When you park the model A don't park with the front end up hill or it will probably leak oil at the rear main.

31 Model A 12-24-2014 04:57 PM

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If you're a new to A's, read and re-read all that has been posted and all that will be posted.

Purdy Swoft 12-24-2014 04:59 PM

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When taking off down hill don't linger long between gear shifts or gears will clash. Don't try coasting with the gearshift lever in neutral or you may have to coast to the bottom of the hill and start over .

Purdy Swoft 12-24-2014 05:01 PM

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Don't take the mechanics handbook for gospel !!!!!!!

Tom Wesenberg 12-24-2014 05:03 PM

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Preventative maintenance beats roadside repairs.

Gooseloony 12-24-2014 05:04 PM

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Read closely all of Tom Wesenberg's tips, pointers, advice and suggestions! ;)

fredski 12-24-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pooch (Post 1003848)
Do not park too close to Chevs, rust is contagious.

My model a is parked beside ,my 63 corvette should I be worried??

Fredsk

Purdy Swoft 12-24-2014 05:10 PM

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If the model A has sit up for a while and won't start, first sand the points gap. Points usually oxidize after sitting for extended periods and the engine won't start .

Afordman31 12-24-2014 05:55 PM

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If you have a fuse in the circuit and your Model A won't start don't keep cranking thinking it will start. Check the fuse as it may have blown.

Henry put a oil cup on the distributor to oil the bushings. Once in a while put a drop or two in it to keep the shaft from freezing up. My buddy found out about the oil cup after his gear that drives off the camshaft (the one that drives the distributor and the oil pump) went out. The teeth were paper thin on gear, these wore because the distributor shaft turned to hard from not oiling. Afordman31

700rpm 12-24-2014 06:09 PM

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Take pictures before, after, and during disassembly. Even stuff you think you know, because your memory can trick you. Also keep a notebook of what you've done and when you did it, including the mileage, and any little tricks you've learned.

Tom Wesenberg 12-24-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 700rpm (Post 1003987)
Take pictures before, after, and during disassembly. Even stuff you think you know, because your memory can trick you. Also keep a notebook of what you've done and when you did it, including the mileage, and any little tricks you've learned.

X2, and during restoration bag everything and put a note in the bag to ID the part and location where it fits. Store parts in plastic tubs with lids. Mice love cardboard boxes and parts wrapped in newspaper.

700rpm 12-24-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1004027)
X2, and during restoration bag everything and put a note in the bag to ID the part and location where it fits. Store parts in plastic tubs with lids. Mice love cardboard boxes and parts wrapped in newspaper.

This is especially important if a significant amount of time passes between disassembly and reassembly, and/or if the car is sold while still disassembled, or if your heirs have to figure what's what in the garage.

caboose 12-24-2014 07:52 PM

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Don’t be too embarrassed to ask questions: at this forum, at the part store, at your local club, at the swap meet, . . . .
But, know your limitations; if you really don’t know what you’re supposed to do, or don’t have the proper tools, don’t start the project.What you think will only take 30 minutes; likely will take the whole weekend (or more!).

Tom Wesenberg 12-24-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fredski (Post 1003945)
My model a is parked beside ,my 63 corvette should I be worried??

Fredsk

You only have to worry about who transports your Corvette.:eek:

Marshall57 12-24-2014 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1004027)
X2, and during restoration bag everything and put a note in the bag to ID the part and location where it fits. Store parts in plastic tubs with lids. Mice love cardboard boxes and parts wrapped in newspaper.

Even when buying new parts (small bolts and rivets etc,) put a note in or on the bag to tell you just what the heck it was to be used for and what it is.
I can't help but take stuff out and handle it and later parts numbers are not enough to remind me.

Dave N. 12-24-2014 08:58 PM

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If you are using your Hand crank to rotate the motor to set points or reposition the motor always slide the hand crank out of the crank ratchet nut because you will forget and use the starter to start up the motor and the Hand Crank will damage sheet metal as it spins wildly.

Sixseven 12-24-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1004048)
You only have to worry about who transports your Corvette.:eek:

It is said in some Ford circles that a corvette makes an ideal platform to keep the Model A tires off the floor so they don't get dirty.


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