1954 Police Car
 

It does not state if this 54 Police Ford has a flathead or y block but just original engine. Should be an interesting auction. Wish I had time to go.
http://www.reginaautoauction.com/1954-ford-police-car

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Under magnification the fender emblem looks the same as a V8 equipped US model would have. Maybe a y-block was the Canadian Interceptor that year? Interesting stripe job; what up with that?

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According to wikipedia, if it is a Canadian built Ford it will have the flathead V8 (or the OHV 6)

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Ralph G is correct. U.S. built 54's had a 239 c.i. " Y " block. Canadian 54 fords used the 239 Flathead eng. it is possible Canadians used a " Y " block for the police model. maybe some of our Canadian friens know and will share with us.

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From the 1952-54 Ford Motor Manual Police supplement: 1953 Police interceptors used the 255 cubic inch Mercury,1954 Ford Police Interceptors were Mercury 256 OHV's.

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This is the '54 fender emblem. Note that the alpha element looks more like a Y than a V. This appears to be what is on the car when viewing the PDF photo under magnification.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA...WRQ~~60_35.JPG

These are '52/'53 emblem; the alpha element is a definite V shape:

http://lbcunited.com/earlyford2/imag...%20EMBLEMS.jpg

I'm thinking Canadian police departments could special order a Y-Block or perhaps import the whole car from the States. Hopefully someone can go look at it in person.

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Yes, it would be great to see a picture with the hood up. We know what they did in the USA, but the Canadian built police cars are the question. One note too, on the old car manual project the they have a 1954 Ford Police car brochure, and all engines were available from the 223 6 cyl. on up, plus they added the Mercury 256 Y-Block as the police interceptor option. So I would imagine Canadian police cars may have done this too. It looks like this car does have a y-block based on the fender tag.

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Open the PDF Ralph put in the original post and blow it up to about 350% (top of page, click the + where it says "automatic zoom"). That is definitely a Y-block insignia. Based on that I'd say that's what's under the hood.

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I wish there was a better market for those 256 engines, I've got most of one that needs a new home. Any suggestions?

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Minor note - Those appear to be '49-'50 Sedan hubcaps.

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Auction sale of this police car was yesterday. Unfortunately there seems to be no information online indicating if it sold and for how much.

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Drat! I guess we'll never know unless the buyer is a forum member or joins...

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in the 60 years from build it is very possible emblems were exchanged as not a major job.I dont believe that in the pre free trade days that most municipal budgets would be able to justify the extra cost.the only exceptions would may have been our RCMP in the western provinces.but I doubt that even as the highways we now have did not exist.

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I have a feeling that this is a U.S. car that was recently made to look like a police car and used for advertising condominiums.

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There have been a couple '54 Merc. Sun Valleys on EBAY lately. One just sold for 16K and one is still bidding. Maybe the buyers for these cars would need you're engine ? Both cars needed restoration.

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My gutt feeling is the same. I think if this were a true Canadian Police ordered car and had a Police Interceptor engine ordered with it, it would have been the Merc. 255 flathead, like they offered in '53. This car has a Y-Block emblem on th efenders, but who knows if anything was changed. I know '54 Canadian Fords had the old '49-'53 non-ball joint suspension and frames to.

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No, I need their cars to put my engine into. :)
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153127

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And for some good reading and photos check out "Ford Police Cars 1932-1997" by Edwin J. Sanow. Of course it focuses on U.S. built Fords so not much help on Canadian models.

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I heard that all 54 Canadian Fords had the 255 Merc. Is that correct?''

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I believe Fords had the Y block 54 Metors which look like Fords but sold by Mercury were flatheads.. Police cars could be anything from 6 cylinders on up, depending on how they were ordered.. The police interceptor had the 256 Merc.. if my info is correct.

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if it was built in canada it was flathead.all 54 fords used the 239 but i would think police were 255.top line 54 meteors used the 255.the 223 came out in april 56 befort that no 6s were built in canada.this should be an american 54 as their are a lot of them up here.

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Here is an ad for the Canadian 1954 Ford. No mention of the new ohv Y block engine so I would assume it is still the flathead under the hood.

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The problem is that there is probably a separate brochure for Canadian Police '54 fords. There is one for the USA built '54 Fords and there is a slightly different engine line-up showing the Mercury 256 Y-Block as the Police Interceptor engine. So still not positive if it was possible to get this engine in Canadian police cars. I'm thiking they came with 255 Merc flatheads since it still had the old (1953) Ford frame w/o ball joints.
Just my opinion.

As I mentioned before, there is a 1954 Ford (USA) Police car brochure on the "Old Car Manual Project" on-line to look at.

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There is so much to see at "TOCMP" that I could not find the U.S. Ford police car brochure. I guess another thing to remember is that not all police cars got the "interceptor " engine.

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Here is the page I was looking at with the USA 1954 Ford Police car brochure.
Just scroll down the page and you will see it. Lots of interesting info. Even the seat material was sturdier for the cop cars. Engines were from the 223 6 cyl., through the 256 Merc Y-Block Interceptor.

http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/

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That worked well. very interesting . Now somebody needs to come up with a Canadian version of the brochure.

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The Monarch, which is similar to a Mercury with different trim, had the OHV engine in 1954.

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So it sounds like Canadian Ford/Meteor/Monarch production was all over the place some used flathead V8's and the Monarch's used the Y-Block V8's.

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From what I can read the Canadian Fords still had flathead power in 54 but Mercury and Monarch had the new 161 hp OHV engine. But 54 Meteor is advertised as having the new 125 hp V8. Maybe the smaller 239 OHV engine?

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The Mercury 255 flathead was rated at 125 HP, so that's what must have been in 1954 Monarchs as the top engine option. So wonder if the flathead V8's in 1954 Canadian built fords were 239 flatheads or 255 flatheads ?
Seems like every answer just brings up more questions. Fun for me though.

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To add even more confusion, Meteor offered two sizes V8s in their Canadian station wagons in 54. The Meteor Nigara Ranch Wagons had the 125 hp V8 while the base Ranch Wagon had only 110 hp, as seen in this ad I have from 1954.

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the Meteor was meant to give Mercury a lower priced vehicle to widen their market.it is possible that lower Ranch used ford interior,dash and Ford flathead 239 not using the one feature that set meteor apart.that being the dash thus only needed grill change.would be interesting to see interior shot of the Ranch showing dash

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what a mixup.all 54 fords and meteors used the flathead period 239 in fords and cheap meteors.top line meteors used 255 merc engine 125 h p.all 54 mercs and monarchs used 256 same as us models.