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HELENT 07-16-2014 01:15 PM

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has anyone try the unisteer electric steering just order one for my 46

HELENT 07-18-2014 09:55 AM

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just got all my parts from unisteer look great now the work starts tonight

40cpe 07-18-2014 10:46 AM

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It looks like you will be the Ford Barn ginny pig. I scanned the instructions. Mounting the unit appears to be the biggest hurdle. It looks large, so the unit and the bracketry to mount it will require some room.

Keep us posted with your progress.

Andy 07-18-2014 12:26 PM

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I wonder about the turning radius. A friend has a regular one under his 32 and it takes a mile to turn it. You can't U turn in a street.

40cpe 07-18-2014 12:54 PM

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It might be easy to get products confused here. The original Unisteer was a rack-and-pinion unit that replaced your steering gear box. It had many complaints of wide turning radius.

HELENT 07-18-2014 01:09 PM

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40 cpe the unit look like it will fit real good under the dash you con turn the motor up to get more room

butchbov 07-21-2014 11:27 AM

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Is this it? http://www.unisteer.com/ If so, I haven't heard any good about them. They should be at the Street Rod Nats in Louisville weekend after this.

Also should say I don't know anyone who has the electric version.

HELENT 07-21-2014 12:12 PM

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what i have is the electric version

HELENT 07-22-2014 07:13 AM

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all the work is going good looks great my have going by friday

BILL WZOREK 07-22-2014 07:36 AM

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With the electric version is there any steering if Power is lost?

HELENT 07-22-2014 08:03 AM

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yes

expavr 07-24-2014 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HELENT (Post 911235)
has anyone try the unisteer electric steering just order one for my 46

I have a Unisteer Electric PS unit in my 33 Chrysler hemi powered street rod. It makes a world of difference getting into tight parking spaces at events and parking in general. The unit senses torque and delivers power only when there is rolling resistance. It is heat sensitive so placement away from the exhaust system or in a location where it can get some cooling airflow should be considered during mockup. It makes for a very sanitary installation without the pump and hoses and takes no HP from the engine.

expavr 07-24-2014 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BILL WZOREK (Post 914479)
With the electric version is there any steering if Power is lost?

Yes. The steering reverts to good old fashioned "muscle power."

expavr 07-24-2014 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HELENT (Post 912206)
just got all my parts from unisteer look great now the work starts tonight

Does your car have IFS? If not are you cutting your steering column to install the power unit? That info with pictures showing the installation will be useful for anyone planning to keep the OEM Ford steering box.

HELENT 07-24-2014 07:43 AM

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yes i am running the stock column looks great and clean will have pictures later if can learn how to post

expavr 07-24-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HELENT (Post 915628)
yes i am running the stock column looks great and clean will have pictures later if can learn how to post

I'm looking forward to your photos. To Post: Click "Go Advanced," then "Manage attachments," then "Choose file" and get the photo from your Desktop or file location, then "Upload" and voila the photo will become an attachment to your message. The JPEG image must be reduced to 800X600 pixels before going thru the attachment process which I do in Photoshop. See the "Attachment Key" info box on the "Manage Attachments" screen if you want to use a photo format other than JPEG.
I think you will find that the investment in that Unisteer PS unit worth the money. Enjoy.....

41merc 07-27-2014 07:27 PM

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How did it turn out?
How did you mount it?
Their tech people told me it needed to be anchored to the frame. Is that how you did yours?
I'd love to see pictures.
Thank you

alchemy 07-28-2014 10:08 AM

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Isn't this the Ford Barn? I can understand talking about OHV conversions on flatheads, or maybe even electric fuel pumps, but electric steering conversions?

expavr 07-29-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by alchemy (Post 917957)
Isn't this the Ford Barn? I can understand talking about OHV conversions on flatheads, or maybe even electric fuel pumps, but electric steering conversions?

??????? Many of the topics on this forum such as T5 transmissions, Mitchell O/D's, 12V electrical systems, alternators, supercharging, travelogues, etc relate to the driveability or the enjoyment of our early Ford vehicles. The use of electric power steering to enhance our driving experience (like the use of an electric fuel pump) is IMO a topic that some on the Barn might be interested in considering. Kudos to HelenT for stepping up to the box and attempting that installation.

HELENT 07-29-2014 10:30 AM

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thanks you

grumpys hot rods 07-29-2014 10:35 AM

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Thanks expavr. I Agree With You Also !!!

HELENT 07-30-2014 09:55 AM

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Good Morning everyone! I have finished the work on my black 1946 Ford Super Deluxe coupe long door with posie dropped front axle 8.8 ford rear end with disk brakes all the way around, 5 speed t-10 transmission. 15 x 8 tires all the way around, air condition, flat head ford with electric fuel pump and a holly 600, 4 barrel carb, with electronic ignition, and alum heads and headers.

Now the unisteer electric steering is in the car, it works great, well satisfied, you can steer the car with the palm of your hand, easy installation, I mounted mine under the dash, braced the pump off where the steering column mounts to the dash up top. No problems with clearance. Any questions you can feel free to contact me. I feel like that was money well spent, the best money spent on the car. 843-933-1472

47Merc 07-30-2014 07:12 PM

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Good to hear you are happy with it. Which unit did you use?

Photos please.

40cpe 07-30-2014 07:46 PM

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Yes, please post pictures and put them in your album. Also, there has been lots of interest in AC on a flathead, we would be interested in pictures of that installation.

scooder 07-31-2014 01:32 AM

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This was asked earlier but I'd like clarification.
If the electrics fail for whatever reason, does the steering effort go back to as it was before installation, or does it become real heavy due to having to turn a now parasitic electric motor and it's gearing?
Thanks,
Martin.

BILL WZOREK 07-31-2014 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 40cpe (Post 919422)
Yes, please post pictures and put them in your album. Also, there has been lots of interest in AC on a flathead, we would be interested in pictures of that installation.

As far as the AC goes who's unit did you use?
And yes pictures of the dash area as well as under hood Please. :)

expavr 08-01-2014 01:00 AM

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[QUOTE=scooder;919564]This was asked earlier but I'd like clarification.
If the electrics fail for whatever reason, does the steering effort go back to as it was before installation, or does it become real heavy due to having to turn a now parasitic electric motor and it's gearing?
Thanks,

Martin
I had driven the street rod for two years without power steering. After it was installed I pulled the fuse to make sure that if it failed I could steer it. I can't guarantee that my muscle memory was the same as before, but the steering was more than adequate to get out of traffic and make a turn if need be. One thing I did notice is that the EPS smoothed out the quirky hitches in the Borgeson U-joints which might be a problem if you weren't mentally prepared for a failure.
The failure of EPS in the Cobalt and Toyota gave it a bad rap, but IMO when the failures happened the drivers either weren't used to manual steering and/or the gear ratios in the rack and pinions on those cars were too tall to deal with the failure.
It took me a few days to get used to the feel of EPS vs manual steering, but 600+ miles later I'm glad I made the switch.
O/T I finally pulled the shift linkage on the truck to take some photos and am in the process of putting a spec sheet together.
Les Williams

scooder 08-01-2014 01:28 AM

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Thanks Les, I asked as I had driven one of the modern little cars that have eps. Power failed to the steering, and it became brutally heavy. As you stated, prolly due to the rack ratio be engineered for use with eps, and without it working, is silly heavy.
Thanks for the shifter update mate,
Looking forward to receiving the info.
your a star,
Martin.

HELENT 08-01-2014 07:38 AM

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Good Morning! To answer the question for what happens to the steering if the esp quits, i disconnected mine last night and drove it and there was no difference. It was like it was originally it was just hard as hell to steer.

scooder 08-01-2014 01:07 PM

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Thanks for the feedback.
Martin.

Chisel 08-01-2014 03:20 PM

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Don't you have a neighbor that has a camera?

117harv 08-01-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alchemy (Post 917957)
Isn't this the Ford Barn? I can understand talking about OHV conversions on flatheads, or maybe even electric fuel pumps, but electric steering conversions?


I agree.


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??????? Many of the topics on this forum such as T5 transmissions, Mitchell O/D's, 12V electrical systems, alternators, supercharging, travelogues, etc relate to the driveability or the enjoyment of our early Ford vehicles. The use of electric power steering to enhance our driving experience (like the use of an electric fuel pump) is IMO a topic that some on the Barn might be interested in considering. Kudos to HelenT for stepping up to the box and attempting that installation.


Really? here is what Ryan has to say on the subject, if you feel it should be different, maybe talk to him.


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I've gotten a bunch of private messages as of late about this and thought I had better speak up.

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All that said, I understand there is some overlap. A great example is a guy with a '40 coupe that he likes to drive quite a bit. For drivability, he might stick a dual carb intake and maybe even some heads on his mill. Advice on such modifications is, of course, welcomed.

I realize (and I'm sure you guys do as well) that there is no broad line of separation between hot rodded and stock early Fords. This would be easy if there was... But it's important to remember that the Ford Barn focuses on the stock restorations while The Jalopy Journal focuses on hot rods and customs. Sure, we will have some "sidebars" on each site covering more bases, but the general premises remains.
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expavr 08-02-2014 12:39 AM

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"All that said, I understand there is some overlap. A great example is a guy with a '40 coupe that he likes to drive quite a bit. For drivability, he might stick a dual carb intake and maybe even some heads on his mill. Advice on such modifications is, of course, welcomed."

117harv

I won't presume to interpret Ryan's thinking on the term "for drivability," but suggest that HELENT's steering modification might qualify as appropriate in this context. As I indicated previously there are many topics on this Forum that are peripherally related to our Fords and have little or nothing to do with "stock/restored" Fords but are of interest to everyone in that they give us a different perspective on how to enjoy our vehicles and to enhance their performance. It would be a shame not to use this venue to expand this source of knowledge and experience. If Ryan disagrees I stand corrected.

Ol' Ron 11-29-2015 10:55 AM

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I think the braves people, are the purest that restore their cars to the original. I have a nephew that does this for a living. These people spend time and many dollars to accomplish this. Unfortunately, not all people interested in returning their old cars back on the road. Realize that the original car is not compatable with todays traffic. Disk brakes, auto trans, OD, and PS. among other things make these cars safer to drive. Yet they all have our beloved Flathead engine, it may have a modern ignition system a better carb, or even an engine management system. But all this is to insure the reliability of the car in question. You may not agree with what I say, but I will defend to the death, you have the right to say it. Nuff said on this subject.


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