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MR JIM 04-10-2014 06:18 PM

Lincoln 337 cui what trans can I use?????
 

Hi there barners.
I got a 337 flathead that was a stationary engine "water pump" and now I was thinking to put the engine in a Hot Rod....But what trans would fit???
Thanx For any ideas. JIM.

1963turnerjohn 04-10-2014 06:22 PM

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A LaSalle gearbox would be a stout choice

51 MERC-CT 04-10-2014 06:47 PM

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The original Lincolns used a GM Hydro-matic.
A version of the same engine was used in the big Ford trucks.
Perhaps a standard shift tranny from one of those would work.

MR JIM 04-10-2014 07:50 PM

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I would like standard trans.....

Ross F-1 04-10-2014 08:52 PM

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The big trucks that used the 337 could be had with a 5-sp synchro trans, with either O/D 5th or direct drive. They are hard to find now, and weigh at least 300 lbs. I think you are better off adapting to something more modern.

havi 04-10-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross F-1 (Post 856878)
The big trucks that used the 337 could be had with a 5-sp synchro trans, with either O/D 5th or direct drive. They are hard to find now, and weigh at least 300 lbs. I think you are better off adapting to something more modern.

I agree with this statement. But any Lincoln car with the 337, would have a trans you can use.

Ol' Ron 04-10-2014 09:25 PM

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The standard shift Bell housing can be modified to use later transmission, If you can find one.

Vic Piano 04-11-2014 07:12 AM

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In addition to the G.M. Hydro-Matic, which was originally adopted in '49,The 337 powered Lincolns from '49 to '51 also offered a standard three speed with overdrive.

rotorwrench 04-11-2014 09:08 AM

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Not all 49 thru 51 Lincolns used the auto trans. Some were still Borg Warner style standard 3-speed and overdrive units. I'm not sure what the bolt patern is on them though. They had a big bell housing and a four bolt patern.

1963turnerjohn 04-11-2014 09:17 AM

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What type of 'hot rod' is the 337 destined for?

34PKUP 04-11-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1963turnerjohn (Post 857060)
What type of 'hot rod' is the 337 destined for?

Obviously a 'heavy' one.:):D

blucar 04-11-2014 11:31 AM

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The Lincoln flat-head engines make better "yard art'.. They tend to be very heavy slow tuning anchors..
They tend to fall into the same category as the Cad flat-heads.. I tried to put a '42 Cad engine into a '42 Chevy in '51.. Could not find a set of front springs that would hold the thing up off of the frame.. Opted for a Chevy truck engine, a big six..

MR JIM 04-11-2014 11:56 AM

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Thanx for all the reply's.
my goal was to put it in a late -20's - 30's "big' wheel base chassis" and have a cool racer with home made body.

Vic Piano 04-11-2014 02:45 PM

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blucar, I wouldn't poo-poo the 337 unless you have actual experience with one or more. Back when they were new,, 337 powered Lincolns were among the top performers in their class at the Carrera Panamericana Race. Here's a photo of Jesus Nava Gonzales getting a little "air" in his '49 "Baby" Lincoln Coupe :) in the 1950 Race! Not bad for a heavy piece of "yard art",:eek: in my opinion. ;)

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps1b930934.jpg

Shadetree 04-11-2014 02:53 PM

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In the mid 50's a friend of mine put a 337 in a`41 Ford Convertible. From what I can remember it ran very well.

tubman 04-11-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadetree (Post 857196)
In the mid 50's a friend of mine put a 337 in a`41 Ford Convertible. From what I can remember it ran very well.

I also had a couple of friends who did this in the '50's, only it was a '53 Ford. It ran OK, but bottomed the suspension. The car was completely un-driveable. I think it had something to do with their steering "modifications".

Deuce Man 04-11-2014 08:52 PM

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Didn't the Kurtis and later Muntz cars in the early fifties use these engines? I am pretty sure I saw one at a show years ago. The big ol Lincoln motor was dressed with finned aluminum heads and multi carbs. Rich

Vic Piano 04-12-2014 04:36 PM

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You could get the Muntz with the 337 Lincoln or the Caddy V8 The founder of the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance has a '51 Muntz with the 337, he has a two pot manifold and fined aluminum heads, it is a beauty.

Mike51Merc 04-13-2014 07:45 AM

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If I were you I'd seriously consider putting that 337 back in the water pump.

850Lbs alone should dissuade you.
Hard to find parts, not to mention performance parts.

Chris Marshall 04-13-2014 02:14 PM

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Jim,

Don't let the naysayers get you down. While parts are tougher to find than for a typical Ford flathead, there's nothing wrong with the big brother Lincoln 337's. Is it bigger/bulkier/heavier? Yes, but so is a 392 hemi and that never stopped anyone from installing one in an early Ford!!

Regarding tranny's, find a passenger bellhousing as noted by rotorwrench above. This uses the normal borg-warner 3 speed tranny with or without overdrive. This same bolt pattern will allow you to use a later ford toploader 4 speed or 3 + 1 OD (same basic case) with minimal modifications. Add a jeep top shifter and you're in business.

As far as practicality - here's a photo of mine complete with Edmunds heads and intake in an original Henry steel 3 window '32 coupe. It's using the original borg-warner 3 speed overdrive tranny.


http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictur...ictureid=26598

Vic Piano 04-13-2014 03:52 PM

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Chris, that is outstanding!

Motorhead6 04-13-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic Piano (Post 858297)
Chris, that is outstanding!

Ditto.

Henry Floored 04-13-2014 09:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Marshall (Post 858250)
Jim,

Don't let the naysayers get you down. While parts are tougher to find than for a typical Ford flathead, there's nothing wrong with the big brother Lincoln 337's. Is it bigger/bulkier/heavier? Yes, but so is a 392 hemi and that never stopped anyone from installing one in an early Ford!!

Regarding tranny's, find a passenger bellhousing as noted by rotorwrench above. This uses the normal borg-warner 3 speed tranny with or without overdrive. This same bolt pattern will allow you to use a later ford toploader 4 speed or 3 + 1 OD (same basic case) with minimal modifications. Add a jeep top shifter and you're in business.

As far as practicality - here's a photo of mine complete with Edmunds heads and intake in an original Henry steel 3 window '32 coupe. It's using the original borg-warner 3 speed overdrive tranny.


http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictur...ictureid=26598

Absolutely awesome. Would love to put a 337 in my `41 Coupe with a 3spd O/D. I think it would just be an effortless "mountain leveler". :)

1952henry 04-14-2014 08:38 AM

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Doesn't Dale Fairfax here on the 'barn play with this Lincoln V8? Pretty sure he'll chime in if he sees this thread.

https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118614

Lincoln V8 +/- 850
392 Fiat hemi +/- 740

Dale Fairfax 04-14-2014 11:21 AM

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Not much more I can say-I love the one in my F-100. It's not only fun to drive but it's a great attention getter and conversation piece. I love it when somebody looks at it when the hood is open and I hear them say: "Oh look, it still has the Flathead in it". It drives like it has a huge electric motor in it:3rd gear at low speed --just push the gas down and off you go with no shudder or shake. 2nd gear at 40, do the same and you'd think it had a Chevy in it.

Back in '61, I had a "Baby" Lincoln with Hydramatic-I don't think I've enjoyed any car since nearly as much.

There's a guy on the H.A.M.B. with the handle "Hudson Joe" who has a really well done track style roadster with a 337 in it. I'm sure it's a west coast car.




Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952henry (Post 858701)
Doesn't Dale Fairfax here on the 'barn play with this Lincoln V8? Pretty sure he'll chime in if he sees this thread.

https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118614

Lincoln V8 +/- 850
392 Fiat hemi +/- 740


hotrod1940 06-22-2014 08:58 AM

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Chris, that is a beautiful engine in a cool rod. I ran a 337 in a Lincoln in a 46 lincoln coupe years ago. Isky cam, 4 barrel, mallory, shaved heads, and duals. It was a respectable runner, in a heavy car. Walked off and left a new 1958 Ford, but not a new Chevy.

denverslim 07-01-2014 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Fairfax (Post 858800)
Not much more I can say-I love the one in my F-100. It's not only fun to drive but it's a great attention getter and conversation piece. I love it when somebody looks at it when the hood is open and I hear them say: "Oh look, it still has the Flathead in it". It drives like it has a huge electric motor in it:3rd gear at low speed --just push the gas down and off you go with no shudder or shake. 2nd gear at 40, do the same and you'd think it had a Chevy in it.

Back in '61, I had a "Baby" Lincoln with Hydramatic-I don't think I've enjoyed any car since nearly as much.

There's a guy on the H.A.M.B. with the handle "Hudson Joe" who has a really well done track style roadster with a 337 in it. I'm sure it's a west coast car.

Clones of the "337 bashing" post crop up every once in a while. Dale, a guy who doesn't like to "toot" his own horn, would rather be working out in the garage, building things, than sitting around the computer telling guys what can't or should not be done! Lol!
I include a picture of the "337" going into his beauty of a pickup.
Good to hear from you, Pal. Hope you're feeling better and on the road to a full recovery...slim
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...ttachment6.jpg

Walt Dupont--Me. 07-01-2014 07:50 PM

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What is the HP and torque on one of those stock monsters? Walt

denverslim 07-01-2014 08:06 PM

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Here's some ##'s for you number guys.
About torque though, Dale sez he doesn't even need low gear anymore! Lol! We started mine on an engine stand in a garage, and I'm telling ya, EVERY wrench on the bench was a'rattlein'...slim

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...s-337bigV8.htm

AnthonyG 07-01-2014 09:26 PM

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Bluecar and Mike51Merc make sense, the 337 is too heavy, too big, and to find an intake and heads other than stock very expensive. You need a frame and suspension which is designed or modified for the weight. I had a '49 Lincoln motor and after researching hot rodding it up, i.e., aluminum heads, multi-carb, headers, etc... for a mid '30's to mid '40's car realized what an expensive complicated project it was going to be. Sold it on e-bay.

havi 07-01-2014 09:49 PM

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Ah, but the "cool factor" is nearly unmatched!

david march 08-15-2019 11:16 PM

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wow, i see most replys about trans use in 337 are 5 years ago. I'm using one in my custom 40 cont #207. I purchased an adapter kit to use a turbo 350 gm as my purpose is less weight. 51 engines have no stick shift. but if you get the std pts from 49 or 50 you can easily adapt to a t-5 or 70's full syncro O D or on one of my cars I use a 60's 3 speed toploader with a cj5 jeep floor shift. being xcalautowker.com for 36 years, i've been wired trans changes. Reds heads makes headers for 337.

40 Deluxe 08-15-2019 11:26 PM

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Wasn't the original "Hot Rod Lincoln" a 337? …...Nope, internet sources say it was a V12.

mfirth 08-16-2019 06:49 AM

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Can you say HOT ROD LINCOLN ? I love it!

deuce_roadster 08-16-2019 09:47 AM

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Well good luck finding the transmission and speed equipment. Be sure to post pictures of your progress I am curious as to how this will turn out. It will certainly be unique.

41Joe 08-16-2019 09:48 AM

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I had a 50 Baby Lincoln and I loved it. Smooth. Bendstens makes an adapter to a Chevy automatic:
https://transmissionadapters.com/pro...14e2870b&_ss=r
Good luck finding any bellhousing for sale. I was looking to switch to a manual at least and I couldn't find anything.
H and H Flatheads also sells aluminum heads and intakes:
https://handhflatheads.com/product/a...oln-337-heads/
https://handhflatheads.com/product/a...take-manifold/
https://handhflatheads.com/product/l...austin-intake/
https://handhflatheads.com/product/a...take-manifold/
Reds Headers has headers:
http://reds-headers.net/index.php?ma...roducts_id=718
Now, this stuff is not cheap. But for pure awesomeness and uniqueness, can you really put a price on that?
I would love to shove one of these anchors into my 41 Tudor.

tubman 08-16-2019 10:34 AM

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Here's a story I have posted on the H.A.M.B. that might be of interest. Back in the early sixties, a couple of guys I knew shoehorned one of these into a '53 Ford. When they got it in, the front suspension was solidly on the bump-stops. When they got it running, it handled like the proverbial "safe in a wheelbarrow". The engine was probably not in the best of shape and the car was a pig. They abandoned the project and went looking for an affordable Olds Rocket.

As they say, "just because you can doesn't mean you should".

rotorwrench 08-16-2019 12:23 PM

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The 337 powered Lincolns with 3-speed and overdrive used the T85 with the R11 overdrive. This same transmission was continued on in heavy duty applications clear up into the 70s except they used better casting technology for the T85N R11 transmissions. They would work behind a pretty stout 390 FE motor in a pickup. Hurst and others made 3-speed shifters to bolt on them.


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