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ford nut 04-01-2021 03:05 PM

Re: 36' rear tail pan repair
 

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Originally Posted by Blastfromthepast (Post 2002708)
Fordnut, those where the reinforcements I was talking about. Good job creating new ones.Don’t forget the cage nuts on the new panel. If you can, line up the old inner panel with the new panel when you drill the new mounting holes to the chassis. If I’m not mistaken there are also cage nut that need to be welded on the left and right sides of the inner panel. It’s where the last whole of the fender mounting bolt is located just as the tail pan curves under the body.great job, take your time. Blast.

yep, i'v got all the cage nuts. the bottom of the inner has to be trimmed around bumper mounts. my originals show how they were. EMS doesn't leave enough metal on the ends plus it's very curvy for some reason. i'll cut away the strange curves and weld in more metal for cage nuts to weld to. right now they're half on- half off.

Blastfromthepast 04-02-2021 05:47 PM

Re: 36' rear tail pan repair
 

Yes your right about the extra metal to weld in.
It’s now bringing back memories. When you drill the holes in the pan
Make the holes just a little larger will save you later when you line them up with the chassis.

ford nut 04-02-2021 06:58 PM

Re: 36' rear tail pan repair
 

i did a mock-up late last night, i seems like it just might go back together at some point. i'v got a new list of 5 or 6 things to do that will get it closer. i dropped off my measurements today at the sheet metal guy to make the trunk floor extension top, piece i need. nobody came on to tell me what that "angled notch" was for, so it will be flat and notch-less. i have something else in mind to keep junk out of that dead space.

Blastfromthepast 04-02-2021 09:32 PM

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When I installed my inner panel I cut it after the notch where that piece of wood is inserted. I’m not sure what the wood was actually used for. Maybe to finish off the trunk area? The cut was made after the wood insert towards the rear of the tail just as it notched downward.

ford nut 04-02-2021 10:15 PM

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i've looked and looked, you cannot find a picture on the internet of the rear most part of the trunk floor, or the piece of wood. maybe it's not wood. i've never seen one. i would think it's there to keep junk from falling into the small space. what year did you make your
tailpan repair?

TagMan 04-02-2021 10:17 PM

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Sorry, haven't intentionally ignored you, just hadn't seen the thread and forgot look for it (CRS !).

I only had to replace a small piece of the inner panel and didn't get into the problems you had. I guess you've already received answers to the questions posed to me. Again, sorry for not responding sooner.
-Bob

ford nut 04-02-2021 10:21 PM

Re: 36' rear tail pan repair
 

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Originally Posted by TagMan (Post 2003203)
Sorry, haven't intentionally ignored you, just hadn't seen the thread and forgot look for it (CRS !).

I only had to replace a small piece of the inner panel and didn't get into the problems you had. I guess you've already received answers to the questions posed to me. Again, sorry for not responding sooner.
-Bob

not a problem at all. this isn't real life, it's a hobby. i get pulled away all the time. it'll happen at it's own pace. thanks for your reply.

Blastfromthepast 04-03-2021 08:18 AM

Re: 36' rear tail pan repair
 

I replaced the pan on my 36 Club Cabriolet.
I’ll see if I can get some pics for you.
It’s covered up and tucked away but I may be able to squeeze
In between other projects to get to it.

rich b 04-03-2021 09:53 AM

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i've looked and looked, you cannot find a picture on the internet of the rear most part of the trunk floor, or the piece of wood. maybe it's not wood. i've never seen one. i would think it's there to keep junk from falling into the small space. what year did you make your
tailpan repair?

There is a piece of wood that covers the back of the trunk; it fits between that groove and two little wood blocks screwed to the holes in the floor (yellow circle) and extends upward to flat area just below the lip of the opening. Kinda off in the distance in the one picture. I'll try to get a picture of the panel in my coupe if I get out to shop today.

Blastfromthepast 04-03-2021 05:56 PM

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Rich b. Thank you for those pictures.
If you find more photos please post them with any
Other information for the purpose of the wood panel.
We’re they ever covered with material or left natural wood.

ford nut 04-03-2021 06:15 PM

Re: 36' rear tail pan repair
 

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Originally Posted by rich b (Post 2003319)
There is a piece of wood that covers the back of the trunk; it fits between that groove and two little wood blocks screwed to the holes in the floor (yellow circle) and extends upward to flat area just below the lip of the opening. Kinda off in the distance in the one picture. I'll try to get a picture of the panel in my coupe if I get out to shop today.

thanks! i wood (would) love to see it in place. is it plumb, is it tilted back? what does it rest against? is it screwed down? when you don't have one (me) you have no idea. i would've thought the top of it would have a radius to fit the outer skin of the body. the one you show has simple straight 90 degree cuts.

Mattcan 04-04-2021 12:36 PM

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Nice work

rich b 04-04-2021 04:08 PM

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thanks! I wood (would) love to see it in place. is it plumb, is it tilted back? what does it rest against? is it screwed down? when you don't have one (me) you have no idea. i would've thought the top of it would have a radius to fit the outer skin of the body. the one you show has simple straight 90 degree cuts.

The piece sits against the rear lip of the trunk floor. It is held there by two small wood blocks (as seen in my previously posted picture) secured by screws from the bottom up in the holes I marked in the other picture.

The top edge rests against and is screwed onto the panel below the trunk opening; probably find the four screw holes once you know where to look.

I copied my panel from the picture that someone had posted here. The contours and fit around the center and drain hoses could probably be fancied up as compared to Ford's original; but as it is; it will keep stuff from falling down in that area.

I will be taking it out and painting flat black; but I also need to make one of the forward divider boards and then paint both pieces. My kid has one of the front boards to use as a pattern; just keep forgetting to grab it.

rich b 04-04-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blastfromthepast (Post 2003472)
Rich b. Thank you for those pictures.
If you find more photos please post them with any
Other information for the purpose of the wood panel.
We’re they ever covered with material or left natural wood.

I got the dimensions from these pictures previously posted by another Ford Barn contributor.

There were pictures posted of an original truck interior and piece appeared to be black and was not fabric covered.

Blastfromthepast 04-04-2021 05:37 PM

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Rich b, thank you for the pictures and the dimensions.
It will come in handy when I cut mine out.
Thanks again Blast.

ford nut 04-04-2021 06:52 PM

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love the details and photos! thank you, good to see the original plan. i'm surprised there's so much space around the drainage tubes on the ends. mice can move around freely. that why i found 5 or 6 dead ones down in there. i think i'll make mine more tightly fitted.

deuce lover 07-01-2021 01:05 AM

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Pics I found on the HAMB that might help.

ford nut 07-01-2021 02:51 AM

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thanks deuce lover. every bit helps. my project is stalled for now as i wait for my trunk floor extension, but i've got lots of other things done than needed to get done, i'll post some pics. of the rust i found and other damage. . .

ford nut 07-01-2021 02:54 AM

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more. . . . .

ford nut 07-01-2021 02:57 AM

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i few more. . . .


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