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4flews · 03-04-2013, 06:41 PM

I have a 1933 with a VIN number of *18-465248*. From what I've searched this number falls under the 1934 range. Everything I can find (and I have restored this entire car) is 1933. Are there late VIN numbers that could prove this is a 1933 with this VIN number possibly made late year??
Anyone have a reliable site to research a specific VIN number?

4flews · 03-04-2013, 06:52 PM

FYI, when this car was turned over to me from my father, he could not find the title. (It was in the barn for almost 30 years). The DMV "gave" it a number. We were unable to find the original VIN number on any parts of the car at that time. It was very "fresh" from the barn. I have now restored it and wanted to get a new title with the actual VIN number. Its number is not clicking with the 1933 range.
ANY help would be greatly appreciated!

David J · 03-04-2013, 06:52 PM

I show it as mid - September 1933 production .

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4flews

I have a 1933 with a VIN number of *18-465248*. From what I've searched this number falls under the 1934 range. Everything I can find (and I have restored this entire car) is 1933. Are there late VIN numbers that could prove this is a 1933 with this VIN number possibly made late year??
Anyone have a reliable site to research a specific VIN number?

4flews · 03-04-2013, 06:58 PM

OK, Thank you David J!!! How may I ask did you find that? Like I said, everything I've researched shows its into the 1934 number range.

David J · 03-04-2013, 07:02 PM

Page 30 of "The early Ford V8 " as henry built it . Deangelis AKA the blue book . The V-8 club book has it also .

4flews · 03-04-2013, 07:06 PM

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That's the third time I've seen that book mentioned in the last hour of searching. I will have to get it. THANK YOU!!!
I see its been for sale on this site (now sold). Suggestions on where to purchase?

mfagan · 03-04-2013, 07:13 PM

I've bought one from Amazon and one for
a friend from an eBay listing.

4flews · 03-04-2013, 07:14 PM

Awesome! I will start searching!

4flews · 10-20-2013, 10:16 AM

David, is there any way you would be able to send me a copy of just that page? I can only seem to find the book on Amazon for $180. Trying to get a title issue cleared up, would prefer not to buy the book at this time. I sure would appreciate Kate it! Thank you. I can provide my email if you have a way to scan the page.

V8COOPMAN · 10-20-2013, 10:37 AM

To add to the confusion, here's what MacVP's site shows:

1933V84018- 203,127 to 18- 457,4771934V84018- 457,478 to 18-1,234,356

DD

David J · 10-20-2013, 02:57 PM

Here it is .

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Originally Posted by 4flews

David, is there any way you would be able to send me a copy of just that page? I can only seem to find the book on Amazon for $180. Trying to get a title issue cleared up, would prefer not to buy the book at this time. I sure would appreciate Kate it! Thank you. I can provide my email if you have a way to scan the page.

TonyM · 10-20-2013, 03:30 PM

That book is available from Mac's for $40.50.

Also available from Drakes, but for $50.

DavidG · 10-20-2013, 03:49 PM

Ford's records (the Rouge engine log which is the source of the Francis/DeAngelis data) as opposed to some non-Ford guess, show the first '33 V-8 engine was numbered 40-207867, produced on November 14, 1932. (The first few '33 engine numbers carried a 40 prefix before Ford reverted to the 18 prefix.)

FrankWest · 11-07-2013, 07:21 PM

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ialnumbers.htm

FrankWest · 11-07-2013, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4flews

I have a 1933 with a VIN number of *18-465248*. From what I've searched this number falls under the 1934 range. Everything I can find (and I have restored this entire car) is 1933. Are there late VIN numbers that could prove this is a 1933 with this VIN number possibly made late year??
Anyone have a reliable site to research a specific VIN number?

looks like early 34 from this site?
http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ialnumbers.htm

David J · 11-08-2013, 11:34 AM

How many 34's were built in September 1933 ?

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Originally Posted by FrankWest

looks like early 34 from this site?
http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ialnumbers.htm

Mart · 11-08-2013, 11:41 AM

Was that number actually found on the frame or the transmission housing? Could the car have been rebuilt onto a slightly later frame sometime in the past? or maybe it was a 34 and fitted with 33 sheet metal after an accident years ago?

Could a 33 have that number?

Mart.

David J · 11-08-2013, 12:29 PM

Yes . It is a September 1933 # . The 457,477 # given on the site mentioned { and actually numerous other places } is August 1933 production . Job-one for 1934 was the third week of November 1933 . Pretty well explains itself from that point . Look at the post above by DavidG and you will see this is not the only error .[QUOTE=Mart;Could a 33 have that number?

Mart.[/QUOTE]

rontc · 03-12-2015, 09:46 PM

Hello I also have a restored 1933 3 window with a vin that matches the frame number 18-465--- so that's Two 33;s with the later number Yes mine is a pure 33

B-O-B · 03-12-2015, 11:01 PM

Can I jump in here? I have a 21 stud in my 34 roadster with *3152* & under that number at the very front of the block is this-----------------------------------8F Is this a 32 block?
The frame # is different.

03-04-2013, 06:41 PM	#1
4flews Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norwalk, Ohio Posts: 6	1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number I have a 1933 with a VIN number of 18-465248. From what I've searched this number falls under the 1934 range. Everything I can find (and I have restored this entire car) is 1933. Are there late VIN numbers that could prove this is a 1933 with this VIN number possibly made late year?? Anyone have a reliable site to research a specific VIN number?

03-04-2013, 06:52 PM	#2
4flews Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norwalk, Ohio Posts: 6	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number FYI, when this car was turned over to me from my father, he could not find the title. (It was in the barn for almost 30 years). The DMV "gave" it a number. We were unable to find the original VIN number on any parts of the car at that time. It was very "fresh" from the barn. I have now restored it and wanted to get a new title with the actual VIN number. Its number is not clicking with the 1933 range. ANY help would be greatly appreciated!

03-04-2013, 06:58 PM	#4
4flews Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norwalk, Ohio Posts: 6	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number OK, Thank you David J!!! How may I ask did you find that? Like I said, everything I've researched shows its into the 1934 number range.

03-04-2013, 07:02 PM	#5
David J Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: St Croix Falls WI Posts: 2,080	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number *Page 30 of "The early Ford V8 " as henry built it . Deangelis AKA the blue book . The V-8 club book has it also .*

03-04-2013, 07:06 PM	#6
4flews Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norwalk, Ohio Posts: 6	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) That's the third time I've seen that book mentioned in the last hour of searching. I will have to get it. THANK YOU!!! I see its been for sale on this site (now sold). Suggestions on where to purchase?

03-04-2013, 07:13 PM	#7
mfagan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kaufman, TX Posts: 822	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number I've bought one from Amazon and one for a friend from an eBay listing.

03-04-2013, 07:14 PM	#8
4flews Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norwalk, Ohio Posts: 6	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number Awesome! I will start searching!

10-20-2013, 10:16 AM	#9
4flews Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norwalk, Ohio Posts: 6	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number David, is there any way you would be able to send me a copy of just that page? I can only seem to find the book on Amazon for $180. Trying to get a title issue cleared up, would prefer not to buy the book at this time. I sure would appreciate Kate it! Thank you. I can provide my email if you have a way to scan the page.

10-20-2013, 10:37 AM	#10
V8COOPMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Shore of LAKE HOUSTON Posts: 11,113	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number To add to the confusion, here's what MacVP's site shows: 1933V84018- 203,127 to 18- 457,4771934V84018- 457,478 to 18-1,234,356 DD __________________ *Click Links Below* __ ▼ *'35-'36 W/8BA & MECHANICAL FAN* *T5 W/TORQUE TUBE*

10-20-2013, 03:30 PM	#12
TonyM Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Hammond, Illinois Posts: 2,793	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number That book is available from Mac's for $40.50. Also available from Drakes, but for $50.

10-20-2013, 03:49 PM	#13
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,101	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number Ford's records (the Rouge engine log which is the source of the Francis/DeAngelis data) as opposed to some non-Ford guess, show the first '33 V-8 engine was numbered 40-207867, produced on November 14, 1932. (The first few '33 engine numbers carried a 40 prefix before Ford reverted to the 18 prefix.)

11-07-2013, 07:21 PM	#14
FrankWest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,005	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ialnumbers.htm

11-08-2013, 11:41 AM	#17
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,750	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number Was that number actually found on the frame or the transmission housing? Could the car have been rebuilt onto a slightly later frame sometime in the past? or maybe it was a 34 and fitted with 33 sheet metal after an accident years ago? Could a 33 have that number? Mart.

11-08-2013, 12:29 PM	#18
David J Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: St Croix Falls WI Posts: 2,080	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number Yes . It is a September 1933 # . The 457,477 # given on the site mentioned { and actually numerous other places } is August 1933 production . Job-one for 1934 was the third week of November 1933 . Pretty well explains itself from that point . Look at the post above by DavidG and you will see this is not the only error .[QUOTE=Mart;Could a 33 have that number? Mart.[/QUOTE]

03-12-2015, 09:46 PM	#19
rontc Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Belleville MI Posts: 2	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number Hello I also have a restored 1933 3 window with a vin that matches the frame number 18-465--- so that's Two 33;s with the later number Yes mine is a pure 33

03-12-2015, 11:01 PM	#20
B-O-B Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ft Mohave,Az Posts: 1,987	Re: 1933 Fordor Sedan VIN number Can I jump in here? I have a 21 stud in my 34 roadster with 3152 & under that number at the very front of the block is this-----------------------------------8F Is this a 32 block? The frame # is different.