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Old 04-05-2013, 07:19 AM   #1
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Yesterday my wife went to visit an elderly relative on the farm she had inherited (we have a farm down the road that we currently lease) and while visiting mentioned we had a Model A. Her elderly aunt said her dad had a Model A back in the day and it has been in one of the barns for years. So my wife asked if she could go see it and was told it was totally trashed and there really wasn't anything to see...she went ahead to see it anyway knowing I'd being asking a bunch of questions about it when she got home.

She took the attached photos and as you can see, trashed was an appropriate description. Sally (my wife) didn't try to move anything that was piled in, on or around it, just snapped some pics as best she could. When she went back to the house to say goodbye, she was offered the car if she thought I might want it for any reason.

Can anyone tell me what it is (year, model)...and whether you'd mess with it even if it was free, but knowing much of the restoration work would have to be jobbed out
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:30 AM   #2
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Sport coupe but I can't see enough to tell the year, I'd take it in a heartbeat.
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Looks pretty solid to me ! (We used to get far worse in the UK!), Looks like a 30/31 and sport coupe as mentioned above.

Nice find.
Given its Free yes I would grab it
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:38 AM   #4
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I was about to say 30/31 also, just noticed the thick quarter moulding behind door in the one pic.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:44 AM   #5
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My best guess is 30 or 31 Sport Coupe. And I dont call that trashed. Model A folks have started with a lot less to build their dream cars. If you dont want it - call or email me. Ken in east Texas.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:47 AM   #6
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I don't call that trashed by any means, I started out with a whole lot worse. I'll be your trash man if you want to dispose of it !
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:12 AM   #7
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I concur with others that more detailed pictures would be needed to pinpoint an accurate date but for now it is a 30/31 Sport Coupe.

While beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder, my description of "trashed" vs. hers is different. I feel the car is VERY restorable if enough resources are thrown at it.


It might seem biased when I say this but in my line of work, I believe the hobbyists that seem to enjoy their cars the most are the ones that own a family member's car. The care & respect they give to that car, ...and joy they get from talking about a family member's car is really neat to watch ( "This was my Dad's old truck.", or "This was my Mom's Buick", ...or my grandpa's Model-A).

While we have restored several "family member cars", two or three that stick out in my mind are a 1931 S/W Fordor where the owner (now deceased) was 12 years old when he went with his grandparents to the Ford Dealership in July of 1931 to trade in their 1930 68B on this Sedan. All these years the car stayed in the family and about 5 years ago one of his son's paid to have the car restored for his Dad. Once the restoration was completed, we/they took that car to several shows where the son and the dad would visit with people as they looked at his car. He also would drive the car to town on errands and would tell stories to anyone who would listen. Now the son is the caretaker of the car and is doing the same thing.

Another car we restored is a '29 Bus. Coupe that the owner's dad purchased the car new. She was born after that time but she remembers the car all through her childhood as her dad even carried the mail with it during the 50's. Now she & her husband enjoy driving it and talking about it.

The final one that I think is neat is a '28 Roadster P/U that the owner's wife's grandfather purchased new out in Idaho. The truck was delivered to the small rural town by rail, and the grandmother was taught how to drive it at the train depot by the R/R workers where she then drove the new pick-up home. The "grandpa" used the truck in his masonry business and it was well "worn". Even the driver's side running board had the treads worn through from him spinning his boot on the running board as he climbed in. We left the running board "as-is" with the holes worn in as a tribute to the original owner.

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Old 04-05-2013, 08:14 AM   #8
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Obviously one person's trash is another person's treasure ! Al
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:34 AM   #9
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Once you get the car out of its "grave" and cleaned up, it could be worth quite a bit. A sport coupe is a very desirable model. YES!!! TAKE IT!!! Offer it up to someone here on Fordbarn for a reasonable price, then split the "profit" with the original owner. You and her will feel good knowing it went to the right people, not going to be chopped up for a hot rod project that never gets finished. I would say it could be worth at least $1000 and who knows, maybe a lot more.??
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:36 AM   #10
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Many have been built starting with a lot less. This is truly a Barn Find! Not an overpriced relic kept in lousy storage and not parted with because the are "getting rare". This car is bonafide and authentic, and should be taken, especially at the price offered. It would be nice to document it's lineage since the line is so short.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:41 AM   #11
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Great Find!
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:48 AM   #12
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Wow great looking 30/31. A lot of that will buff out. I would make sure it isn't able to be seen by the passing public, you wouldn't want that one to disappear .
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:57 AM   #13
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i agree with every one else that i'd take it in a heartbeat. Sport Coupe isn't exactly the most ideal model but it looks farely complete.
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:02 AM   #14
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I'd be over there right now with money in hand.

And yes, please try to document it.

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Old 04-05-2013, 09:10 AM   #15
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any condition is worth it.....I got my trailer hooked up....
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:16 AM   #16
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Thanks Everyone
First of all, I guess I need to apologize for repeating my wife's descriptive term 'trashed'

Tracing it's lineage couldn't be easier...one owner, my wife's grandfather from dealer to barn and he's been passed away for a few decades now.

To those of you have PM me about buying it, I haven't even gone up to take a look yet or seriously considered the options; but since it is a family heirloom if you will, I'm giving more thought to restoring it than I would if it wasn't. If after thinking it through I decide not go ahead, I will keep your PMs and get back to you to ascertain your level interest.

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Old 04-05-2013, 09:17 AM   #17
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And, it's been inside, not sitting in a field, which makes a whole lot of difference!
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I would be over there right now getting it. How come nobody ever gives me free Model A's?
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Though all of us would give our eye teeth for the chance at it, as you said it's a family heirloom and in your family it should stay. You've got a good car there. When you get the chance post us some more pic's.
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AND THEY SAY THAT THERE ARE NO MORE TO FIND !!!
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Ahhh, the perfect candidate for that new "color back wax".

Check to see if the title card is still in the house. It could save a lot of red tape and some expense.

As mentioned, that is an excellent find and well worth restoring from what I can see. Is the rear lid laying around, maybe even in another shed?
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:25 AM   #22
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Is the rear lid laying around, maybe even in another shed?
Tom, having spent time in our barn (inherited from wife's dad) I can assure that this family has never thrown anything away. Like I said, I haven't been up to the farm since the wife's discovery yesterday, but I'm confident everything that was ever part of the car is in that barn or one of the others on the property...hell, there maybe another car buried in another barn, I know there are a number of old out of use tractors barned up all across the family farms in the same area.
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Remember the old adage: If It's Free take it, even if it"s a bucket of manure, cuze you might be able to use the bucket !
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30-31 Sports Coupe. I would hardly call it trashed. Get it home ASAP. In need of restoration, but don't haul it to the iron buyer. Rod
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Great find...I am thinking earl 30 from what I can see of the bar between the bumper supports...take it and then pull it out as if it were an archaeological find...look on the ground for small parts that might have fallen off and get it into a better storage asap...I believe it was Eagle above who said that someone on this post would take it and that is spot on.

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Old 04-05-2013, 04:32 PM   #26
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I'm looking for my next project and I would jump on that one! Without being able to see much detail it appears to definitely be savable with plenty of work.
Price is right too!
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:57 PM   #27
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I like EAGLE's idea. Grab it, save it yourself or let one of the FORD BARN - stock A Ford folks do a nice resto. on it. The splitting of any profit with the family is a nice touch indeed.

Looks like there is much to do - but also a very "doable" car from what you sent us!

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My wife said that like Pavlar's dogs, that if I hear the word cheap or free it comes homes with me. And its true. I feel you can always change your mind later and sell or donate it.
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Everyone (except jkeesey) (just kidding!) knows that the sport coupe is the most beautiful of all Model A's.

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Old 01-13-2014, 07:13 PM   #30
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Definitely 30 - 31, take it ASAP
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Brent,
Thank you for sharing the 3 family member stories.
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Old 01-13-2014, 10:21 PM   #32
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I can leave for East TX in the morning. ;-)
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Guys, I don't know if Forker took the car or not, I don't remember a follow up, but this thread is nearly a year old....
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Now if I can just find an airplane that way!
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The only problem I can see is that there is no room to sit behind the steering wheel!
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Your in a tough spot = keep it in the family or not. All I can say is if you let it go , you'll never get another chance to have grandpa's car. I've seen so many people in the same spot let go of the "family jewel" and end up sorry about it. I'm in the reverse of your problem - none of my family want my model A's. Just be sure whatever you do is what you can deal with later = don't do something you'll be sorry for ... Gary
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1930-1931 Cabriolet, not coupe... Look at the landau irons
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Definitely a Cabriolet. Judging by the pictures, in very good shape and worth restoring. don't let the rust scare you. It has been sitting under a roof so the metal is probably quite sound. Personally, I would not hesitate to start on this project. O.K., it can take you a couple of years to do but it is not as difficult as you think. It sits on a wood frame and the doors and roof have quite some wooden parts in it as well but again, a fun project to start with. It looks like the car might be complete. My advice: Go for it.

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SPORT COUPE = LOOK AT THE DOORS AND THE BRACE'S THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE ROOF BOW #2 & BACK BELT BELT. AS TO THE (LANDAU) IRONS THEY DO NOT FOLD. I have owned my 1930 SPORT COUPE that is a retired show car for 52 years and did a frame up restoration. CHECK OUT VOL 15 ISSUE 2 OF THE RESTORER FROM MAFCA.

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The doors are a dead give away. Its a sport coupe.
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George,

You should definitely keep grandpas car as long as you feel up to restoring it.

Just remember that with a car which seems to preserve a lot of its originality, there's a great responsibility resting on you to document the car before you tear it apart.

Please get a good digital camera and take hundreds of pictures both overview and closeup of any detail. No detail is to small. What type of screw is used in each place? Square head or hex head nuts? What seems to be the original finish of every little part ? Are any of the original fabrics still there? Get close up shots of weave pattern and colors of any seemingly original fabric

Then, please share your photos. For example, offer them to Bob Johnson to put on his Modelahouse site.


There are not many untouched cars out there anymore, hence we have to reap the information we can from those that are left.

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I'm coming down the road right now with the trailer... which house is it?
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Fist time to see this post. So what happened to the car? Did you get it?
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with those guys^^^^^.....the doors are SC....
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Ah, live and learn, it is indeed a coupe. Sorry guys, my mistake ;-)
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My barn finds. I have a AR Roadster that Bob Johnson bought new in March 22 1928 He was the Ford mechanic at the local dealer then . I paid $ 225 for it in 1955 .The other a 1930 sw Fordor 29000 miles on it ,paid $ 50 as second owner from the same garage . These cars have been inside for years and still have original tires on them .I have driven the 28 about 40 miles every year and it runs great .It has #5 license plate on it for the Province of Alberta .They both have single plate glass wind shields and the Roadster has it's original honey comb radiator which Ford said he didn't do .It's like owning a famous picture ,you don't do anything with it but it is the pleasure of looking at it is what the owner likes . Your barn find I would call a Cabriolet 68-B that is one of the more valuable cars a real jewel Keep it .
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