Merger again considered, Credible opinions requested

[H. L. Chauvin]

Hi Carl,

Sounds like your lovely wife is not only gifted & talented trying to hold on to an almost lost, beautiful art; but also energetic & most brilliant.

If I ever moved to Alaska, on cold nights, I think I would appreciate my artistic wife being interested in quilts also. As a kid I remember the cold nights when the fire in the fireplace was extinguished for safety reasons.

Quilt magazines & Model A magazines reminds us from whence we came & the sacrifices endured by our ancestors & all of us to establish freedom for all of our posterity.

Thanks for your ingenious response & heartfelt determination to fight "CHANGE".

[Ted Duke]

Marcos,

Again you have stated a truth!

Ted

[Ted Duke]

Timothy,

Ditto from me. I belong to both and a local chapter and if I only wanted to belong to one or NONE, I would!

Ted

[modelAgarth]

CTVPA
I'm not sure at MAFCA who declined providing a financial report but our policy is all MAFCA members are entitled to a copy if they request one. Per California law, there is a small fee for postage and copying, I believe it's about $3.00. If you will send a request to me at [email protected] with your contact info, I'll be happy to see it processed. Additionally, the required financial records are published yearly in The Restorer. We are still waiting on the last year's report from our CPA but I expect it to be published in the March/April or May/June issue.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by modelAgarth

CTVPA
I'm not sure at MAFCA who declined providing a financial report but our policy is all MAFCA members are entitled to a copy if they request one. Per California law, there is a small fee for postage and copying, I believe it's about $3.00. If you will send a request to me at [email protected] with your contact info, I'll be happy to see it processed. Additionally, the required financial records are published yearly in The Restorer. We are still waiting on the last year's report from our CPA but I expect it to be published in the March/April or May/June issue.

"Hello Mr. President!!" That is fun to say!!

Actually Mr. Shreading, welcome to Fordbarn and I am glad you have posted here. Now off to getting that gas gauge of yours calibrated so you don't run out of fuel and cause those Secret Service guys to go into a tizzy!!!

[1930artdeco]

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Whoohoo. we have the President in our midst. Welcome to the Barn.


Mike

[stewwolfe]

Welcome to Ford Barn Garth. I'm Glad to see that you are willing, once again, to provide inspired leadership to MAFCA.

[glenn in camino]

Egos of the board members of each club will prevent a merger until both clubs are bankrupt and gone.

[modelAgarth]

Brent, your FB comment inspired me to adjust the gas gauge, I'm doing it today

[brum1]

Would be good to see the clubs merge and present a stronger national presence.

[JohnLaVoy]

How about running for the board and making the changes you want rather than writing about it here.

[mshmodela]

[Jeff/Illinois]

Originally Posted by mshmodela

FUNNY! This about says it all on this bad boy let's put it to rest. Time to move on.

I used to have an opinion on this but enjoy belonging to both clubs and don't plan on changing. End of story.

Wait.... look closely that horse blinked I'm sure of it!!

[daveymc29]

I belong to both and like it that way. I also belong to a local branch of mafca and at some point may join another local branch. Just having the choices is what I like.

[Bearing1]

I would be willing to pay a bit more and have a combined and stronger National club for the preservation of the hobby and antique cars. A combined voice carries more weight. This is not a political organization but a automobile club we all have the single interest of Model A Fords. I can almost tell the age of responders by the responses.

[KenCoupe]

First, let me say I belong to both national clubs and enjoy receiving both magazines because they each have a different point of view. I like having the choice of belonging to either one or both of the clubs (or neither).

Second, I have a few questions regarding the question posed, and I am not trying to be a wise guy or insulting to anyone. I am only trying to get information and data (I tend to be analytical by nature).

My questions:
You stated in the first post that an overwhelming number of members support merger. You subsequently stated you do statistcal analysis for a living. I would be interested in what your statistical population is - does it include all members of both clubs and also include Model A owners who are not members of the clubs? Have you made a scientific random sampling of this population? What degree of certainty does your sampling represent?

Also stated was that combination of the two clubs would result in a dramatic drop in operating costs. What studies have been conducted to substantiate this? On the surface it might appear that duplication of office staff would be eliminated, but a combined organization might have to increase staff to efficiently handle increased membership, increased merchandise sales, etc. A combined organization might save some on insurance costs, but by how much since a a single insurance would possibly be required to cover a larger membership at a given event. I just would like to see a substantiation of reduced costs and by how much. What are the costs of the merger, i.e. combining any computer systems, potentially moving the headquarters to a new location, creating a new logo (if the combined organization did not adopt one or the other existing logos) and the cost of new stationary, web site, and other combination costs? How long would it take to recover these merger costs?

Does one combined organization have a stronger voice, or do multiple voices (the two clubs) present a stronger voice? This is probably a rhetorical question that cannot be objectively answered.

Again, I am not trying to be a wise guy or insult anyone. I am only trying to obtain relevant objective data with regard to the question and a potential merger. Opinions are great and often relevant, but objective data also is important. It is my belief that an informed decision cannot be made without answers to the above questions and other questions as well.

[HoarseWhisperer]

Just another one for being a member of both clubs for the reasons already stated.

I value the meets, tours and publications of both.

[brum1]

Does anyone have facts on the growth(or decline) in membership of both national clubs?? in the past 5 years??

[Jeff/Illinois]

Originally Posted by brum1

Does anyone have facts on the growth(or decline) in membership of both national clubs?? in the past 5 years??

Read some time ago, somewhere, that MAFCA has actually been gaining membership and it wasn't in their publications. If I can find it I'll scan the article.

When I first joined MAFCA in 1971 seems like they had around 12,000 members today I believe they;re over 15,000. Still largest car club devoted to one make of automobile.

Not QUITE sure about MARC I think they may have slipped a little but still doing well.

[brum1]

Thanks Jeff, no one seems to be quite sure on the numbers I thought is might be in the web site but could not find it?? Any club officers out there?? maybe someone can provide these facts?