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37coop · 07-21-2013, 05:10 PM

hi guys ...just a quick one , the engine paint on my 51 f1 , should it be gold ?, cheers jim.

1952henry · 07-21-2013, 05:11 PM

Red, I believe.

Barry-ct · 07-21-2013, 05:39 PM

Gold or Bronze was the car color. 1952 Henry is correct, red.

Big Red 51 · 07-21-2013, 06:02 PM

Dupli-color Ford Red looks good.

37coop · 07-22-2013, 05:41 PM

thanks guys ....red it is

TStiles · 07-22-2013, 06:43 PM

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TStiles · 07-22-2013, 06:47 PM

Oops!

After my post, I went to the Hirsch site and they don't list the red for '51 F-1, only the bronze used in cars. Red is the correct color.

Barry-ct · 07-22-2013, 07:03 PM

I made that mistake and followed the Hirsch chart. I painted it Bronze and had to paint it red afterwards.

joe plumber · 07-22-2013, 07:43 PM

Check out Krylons Banner Red color .

TStiles · 07-23-2013, 11:56 AM

Actually, it's only a 2-point deduction for an incorrect engine color. If bronze appeals over red, use bronze. After all, most of these aren't show trucks. I know mine sure isn't...

El Rat · 07-23-2013, 03:27 PM

Probably Insignificant but my unmolested 52 F1 is green. It has the correct heads and pan from what I can tell. (all apart)

37coop · 07-23-2013, 04:38 PM

thanks guys ...its red for me but here in the u.k I might have a problem getting the correct engine paint in this colour (different spelling to yours),-green no problem but not many ford v.8 parts dealers over here and the stock is nothing like the u.s suppliers so chances are they wont have red in stock...if all else fails would I get away with normal red metal paint for the engine block regarding the heat ? we are not allowed to ship paint to here from there , cheers jim.

Dave72dt · 07-23-2013, 05:15 PM

The '51 F3 I did several years ago had a green very close to Detroit Diesel color on the bellhousing. which I have every reason to believe was original. It is not the same green as was used in the earlier cars. The engine was red but had come out of a car. The drop down for Hirsch does not separate the cars form the trucks in colors

1952henry · 07-24-2013, 09:15 AM

In 52 the truck engines were (Lincoln) green. Not to say a late 51 wouldn't have been green.

JHFORD51 · 07-24-2013, 09:52 PM

37coop,
When you see "red" as the description of the color it may not mean "red". There are about a jillion shades of "red" just look at fire trucks for instance. Almost every department has their own particular shade. The 49-51 8RT engines I have worked on have been a fairly dark shade of red that I don't find easily approximated by "Ford Red" engine paint selections; they are all too bright. Perhaps years of oil, fuel varnish, and grease darkened the original color, I don't know. Since you are UK, check out "MG maroon" engine paint color; its not a dark maroon and is fairly close in shade to the paint I have seen on several of these engines upon dismantling and cleaning (engines that appear to have never been apart with date coded Ford bearings). Not exact mind you but a lot closer than the bight red engine paint intended for Y-blocks and some Falcon/Fairlane engines...

07-21-2013, 05:10 PM	#1
37coop Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: kent , u.k Posts: 519	51 f1 engine colour hi guys ...just a quick one , the engine paint on my 51 f1 , should it be gold ?, cheers jim.

07-21-2013, 05:11 PM	#2
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,621	Re: 51 f1 engine colour Red, I believe. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

07-21-2013, 05:39 PM	#3
Barry-ct Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Newington, Connecticut Posts: 1,374	Re: 51 f1 engine colour Gold or Bronze was the car color. 1952 Henry is correct, red. __________________ Barry 50 F-1

07-21-2013, 06:02 PM	#4
Big Red 51 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 131	Re: 51 f1 engine colour Dupli-color Ford Red looks good.

07-22-2013, 05:41 PM	#5
37coop Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: kent , u.k Posts: 519	Re: 51 f1 engine colour thanks guys ....red it is

07-22-2013, 06:43 PM	#6
TStiles Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kitsap Peninsula, Western WA Posts: 276	Re: 51 f1 engine colour Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Check out Bill Hirsch for paint - excellent quality and correct color/shade http://www.hirschauto.com/departments.asp?dept=2 The drop down for color/size provides all the colors for al the years

07-22-2013, 06:47 PM	#7
TStiles Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kitsap Peninsula, Western WA Posts: 276	Re: 51 f1 engine colour Oops! After my post, I went to the Hirsch site and they don't list the red for '51 F-1, only the bronze used in cars. Red is the correct color.

07-22-2013, 07:03 PM	#8
Barry-ct Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Newington, Connecticut Posts: 1,374	Re: 51 f1 engine colour I made that mistake and followed the Hirsch chart. I painted it Bronze and had to paint it red afterwards. __________________ Barry 50 F-1

07-22-2013, 07:43 PM	#9
joe plumber Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 820	Re: 51 f1 engine colour Check out Krylons Banner Red color .

07-23-2013, 11:56 AM	#10
TStiles Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kitsap Peninsula, Western WA Posts: 276	Re: 51 f1 engine colour Actually, it's only a 2-point deduction for an incorrect engine color. If bronze appeals over red, use bronze. After all, most of these aren't show trucks. I know mine sure isn't...

07-23-2013, 03:27 PM	#11
El Rat Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 260	Re: 51 f1 engine colour Probably Insignificant but my unmolested 52 F1 is green. It has the correct heads and pan from what I can tell. (all apart)

07-23-2013, 04:38 PM	#12
37coop Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: kent , u.k Posts: 519	Re: 51 f1 engine colour thanks guys ...its red for me but here in the u.k I might have a problem getting the correct engine paint in this colour (different spelling to yours),-green no problem but not many ford v.8 parts dealers over here and the stock is nothing like the u.s suppliers so chances are they wont have red in stock...if all else fails would I get away with normal red metal paint for the engine block regarding the heat ? we are not allowed to ship paint to here from there , cheers jim.

07-23-2013, 05:15 PM	#13
Dave72dt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SW WI Posts: 359	Re: 51 f1 engine colour The '51 F3 I did several years ago had a green very close to Detroit Diesel color on the bellhousing. which I have every reason to believe was original. It is not the same green as was used in the earlier cars. The engine was red but had come out of a car. The drop down for Hirsch does not separate the cars form the trucks in colors

07-24-2013, 09:15 AM	#14
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,621	Re: 51 f1 engine colour In 52 the truck engines were (Lincoln) green. Not to say a late 51 wouldn't have been green. __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.

07-24-2013, 09:52 PM	#15
JHFORD51 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 253	Re: 51 f1 engine colour 37coop, When you see "red" as the description of the color it may not mean "red". There are about a jillion shades of "red" just look at fire trucks for instance. Almost every department has their own particular shade. The 49-51 8RT engines I have worked on have been a fairly dark shade of red that I don't find easily approximated by "Ford Red" engine paint selections; they are all too bright. Perhaps years of oil, fuel varnish, and grease darkened the original color, I don't know. Since you are UK, check out "MG maroon" engine paint color; its not a dark maroon and is fairly close in shade to the paint I have seen on several of these engines upon dismantling and cleaning (engines that appear to have never been apart with date coded Ford bearings). Not exact mind you but a lot closer than the bight red engine paint intended for Y-blocks and some Falcon/Fairlane engines...