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jimmiej · 11-24-2015, 10:01 PM

Could and would someone please tell me in which issue the article involving lifting the Victoria body over the wooden framework is located? Thanks. Jim

Vern · 11-25-2015, 11:42 AM

I don't recall an article involving lifting the Victoria body over the wooden framework, but I can say that lifting the Victoria body to slide the chassis underneath is a major task. Especially after it has just been painted & buffed.

Steve Plucker · 11-25-2015, 12:11 PM

I agree with Vern...I do not think there was one.

Pluck

larrys40 · 11-25-2015, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vern

I don't recall an article involving lifting the Victoria body over the wooden framework, but I can say that lifting the Victoria body to slide the chassis underneath is a major task. Especially after it has just been painted & buffed.

Looks like Arlyn Beiber in the photo and maybe his victoria? Tell Arlyn I said hello.
Looks very nice!

I restored one a few years ago for one of our local guys and used some 4 X 4's supported and placed them on jack stands, and removed the back and then the front down with abotu 4 helpers. Don't forget to attach the sill plates first as once the body is down you can't nail them from underneath. Also make sure they clear the door opening... all that prior to installing on the chassis. Final door alignment once installed on chassis of course.
Larry Shepard

jimmiej · 11-25-2015, 02:13 PM

Thanks for the replies. Jim

Vern · 11-25-2015, 04:08 PM

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Jim, the Victoria body sheet metal is basically nailed to the wood frame. The framework is attached to the wood sub-sills which sits on the chassis. The level of work you face in restoring your Victoria is directly proportionate to the condition of the wood in your Victoria.

jimmiej · 11-25-2015, 05:48 PM

Well, I'm going to be building a leatherback from the frame up. The running gear has been redone. I have all new wood, new Lebaron Bonney upholstery, headliner and top kit. It is going to be a long learning experience. I have joined the Victoria Assc. and ordered a complete set of the 'Bustle'. I'm sure you'll hear more from me. Vern, thanks for the pictures. I like pictures. Trying to figure out what all the parts are is daunting as I did not take the car apart.

jw hash · 11-25-2015, 07:51 PM

jimmiej there is an article back in around 1983 that Charlie Viosca did on replacing the wood in the Victoria body. that was at around the same time I built my Leather back and a steel back for a friend. Charlie talked to me about writing an article, but that is one thing I`m not worth a bean on doing. I do have some pictures and if I can be any help to you let me know. I put new wood in my A400 using the same process

jimmiej · 11-25-2015, 08:12 PM

jw,
Thanks very much for the offer. I'm sure you as well as others will be hearing from me. Right now I don't know what I don't know. Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Jim

Mike V. Florida · 11-25-2015, 11:23 PM

Just let us know specifically what you need one step at a time.

Bob Johnson · 11-26-2015, 12:09 AM

Here is what you are looking for.

Viosca, Charlie, "Installing interior wood in a steelback Victoria," illus., Jul-Aug 1985 (30-2) p 16-21
Viosca, Charlie, "Installing top wood in a Victoria," illus., Nov-Dec 1984 (29-4) p 16-19

Bob

Mike V. Florida · 11-26-2015, 12:59 AM

This will also give you an idea of what is needed.

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/additio...d-framing-kit/

art ebeling · 11-26-2015, 09:20 AM

This may help, lots of photos of Victoria wood structure. http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/additio...d-framing-kit/ There is also an article in the 7/99 Bustle.

jw hash · 11-26-2015, 11:00 AM

keep in mind a lot of the top and back wood is different between the steel back and leather back. even the inner spare tire brace is different.

11-24-2015, 10:01 PM	#1
jimmiej Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 55	Restorer article Could and would someone please tell me in which issue the article involving lifting the Victoria body over the wooden framework is located? Thanks. Jim

11-25-2015, 11:42 AM	#2
Vern Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 572	Re: Restorer article I don't recall an article involving lifting the Victoria body over the wooden framework, but I can say that lifting the Victoria body to slide the chassis underneath is a major task. Especially after it has just been painted & buffed. Last edited by Vern; 05-30-2020 at 08:10 PM.

11-25-2015, 12:11 PM	#3
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Restorer article I agree with Vern...I do not think there was one. Pluck

11-25-2015, 02:13 PM	#5
jimmiej Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 55	Re: Restorer article Thanks for the replies. Jim

11-25-2015, 04:08 PM	#6
Vern Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 572	Re: Restorer article Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Jim, the Victoria body sheet metal is basically nailed to the wood frame. The framework is attached to the wood sub-sills which sits on the chassis. The level of work you face in restoring your Victoria is directly proportionate to the condition of the wood in your Victoria. Last edited by Vern; 05-30-2020 at 08:10 PM.

11-25-2015, 05:48 PM	#7
jimmiej Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 55	Re: Restorer article Well, I'm going to be building a leatherback from the frame up. The running gear has been redone. I have all new wood, new Lebaron Bonney upholstery, headliner and top kit. It is going to be a long learning experience. I have joined the Victoria Assc. and ordered a complete set of the 'Bustle'. I'm sure you'll hear more from me. Vern, thanks for the pictures. I like pictures. Trying to figure out what all the parts are is daunting as I did not take the car apart.

11-25-2015, 07:51 PM	#8
jw hash Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn Washington Posts: 2,552	Re: Restorer article jimmiej there is an article back in around 1983 that Charlie Viosca did on replacing the wood in the Victoria body. that was at around the same time I built my Leather back and a steel back for a friend. Charlie talked to me about writing an article, but that is one thing I`m not worth a bean on doing. I do have some pictures and if I can be any help to you let me know. I put new wood in my A400 using the same process

11-25-2015, 08:12 PM	#9
jimmiej Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 55	Re: Restorer article jw, Thanks very much for the offer. I'm sure you as well as others will be hearing from me. Right now I don't know what I don't know. Happy Thanksgiving to you all. Jim

11-25-2015, 11:23 PM	#10
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Restorer article Just let us know specifically what you need one step at a time. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

11-26-2015, 12:09 AM	#11
Bob Johnson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: California Posts: 979	Re: Restorer article Here is what you are looking for. Viosca, Charlie, "Installing interior wood in a steelback Victoria," illus., Jul-Aug 1985 (30-2) p 16-21 Viosca, Charlie, "Installing top wood in a Victoria," illus., Nov-Dec 1984 (29-4) p 16-19 Bob

11-26-2015, 12:59 AM	#12
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Restorer article This will also give you an idea of what is needed. http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/additio...d-framing-kit/ __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

11-26-2015, 09:20 AM	#13
art ebeling Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Hillsboro IL Posts: 479	Re: Restorer article This may help, lots of photos of Victoria wood structure. http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/additio...d-framing-kit/ There is also an article in the 7/99 Bustle.

11-26-2015, 11:00 AM	#14
jw hash Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn Washington Posts: 2,552	Re: Restorer article keep in mind a lot of the top and back wood is different between the steel back and leather back. even the inner spare tire brace is different.