High cost of licensing a Model A

[whirnot]

I just got the renewal notices for both my Models A's (and my 51 F1). Man these things are expensive to license. $12.67 for each one. And the plates are only good for 5 years...... So I am curious what does your state charge?

Point of reference, My 5 year old F150 is still over $300 per year.

[billwill]

In New Jersey one time tag 28.58 New Jersey is not a creep state good luck

[Aerocraft]

Illinois is six bucks a year for antique vehicles.

Gar Williams

[fordf1trucknut]

Pa has no renewal for antique tags which is nice!!!

I have 6 antique plated old vehicles on the road and it costs zero.

I drive one of my f-1s daily so i do have a regular truck plate on it which runs 58 or so

[fins2nv]

North Dakota has a one-time charge for a pioneer plate, but I don't remember how much it was. You never have to renew and there are no driving limitations.

[holdover]

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Virginia antique plate is a one time charge of 50.00 for each one. yearly reg plates are between 25 & 50 for cars depending on weight.

[Joe K]

Cow Hampshire

$15 New Antique - State
$6 Renewal Antique - State
$8 State Plate Fee (Usually done with new)
$5 Town fee (all registrations)
Town may impose additional "Improvement" charges as the voters approve.
Vehicle tax - which reaches minimum after 6 years - about $20 IIRC.

Also annual inspection with is $45 at my garage of choice (rates can vary) which includes the basic $20 safety inspection and an additional $25 "Environmental Inspection" (which is but another reason to pay him to say "yup it doesn't leak gas or smoke.")

Joe K

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by whirnot

And the plates are only good for 5 years......

Bill, does that mean you are issued new plates every 5 years??

[jmeckel]

WI antique plates and registration is $5.00 for lifetime

[Mike V. Florida]

68.00 now, one time for as long as I own the car. It was 28.00 when I did mine.

[darrylkmc]

It has tripled here in Alaska in the last few years on Historic Vehicle plates.

Up to $15.00 for a permanent plate and registration, Titles are also up to $15.00.

Most modern everyday vehicles are $100.00 for a 2 year registration.

This is online, if available, it will cost you an extra $10.00 if you show up at DMV to see a smiling face.

Darryl in Fairbanks
Temps are rising up to +7

[Bertha]

$28.00 for the Vintage YOM. 2yr renewal.


Bob

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by Bertha

$28.00 for the Vintage YOM. 2yr renewal.


Bob

Bob,
Cool license topper.
I grew up in western NY and when I rode along on the trip to Palmyra to buy groceries, I saw some "I LIKE IKE" banners hanging around town. I was too young to know what it meant, so I asked my mom about it.

In Minnesota it cost me just under a couple hundred to change ownership on the Stude this summer, but now I have a collector plate for life. However on newer cars the plates cost based on car value. In other words we keep getting taxed every year on the same car, and this past year they now added a wheelage tax.

[ian Simpson]

In Alberta, I pay $39CDN for a permanent plate.

Ian

[Bertha]

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Bob,
Cool license topper.
I grew up in western NY and when I rode along on the trip to Palmyra to buy groceries, I saw some "I LIKE IKE" banners hanging around town. I was too young to know what it meant, so I asked my mom about it.

In Minnesota it cost me just under a couple hundred to change ownership on the Stude this summer, but now I have a collector plate for life. However on newer cars the plates cost based on car value. In other words we keep getting taxed every year on the same car, and this past year they now added a wheelage tax.

Tom,

We live in Hamburg, now known as the 80" in four daze town.

Bob

[Ed Wendell]

Moan and groan all you want, I wish I could pay $12.67 a year. MY '53 F100 cost me $110.00 this year.
Just paid $130.00 for YOM plates for my Model A.

Ed

[RandyinUtah]

I Utah I paid $200.00 for a life time plate. After a few years Utah changed the law and said my plate was no longer good. It now costs me $10.00 every year. I challanded this and wanted my $200.00 back and the State told me to forget it and pay the $10.00

[Charlville]

Antique vehicles are free of Road Tax (licence) in the UK :

Historic vehicles

You don’t have to pay vehicle tax on vehicles made before 1 January 1974 (known as ‘historic vehicles’). Insurance rates are pretty reasonable if you accept certain limitations.

[springerpete]

MAINE is $15 for a new plate sticker. Plate lasts forever unless you ruin it.

[31 Model A]

Illinois has two categories, Antique Vehicle, $6.00 a year or Extended Antique Vehicle, $51.00 a year. Difference is the months and reasons when your can drive on the roads. AV is for driving to and from gas stations, to and from events or shows only, year round. EAV has those same restrictions from 1 Nov- 28 Feb. From 1 Mar-31 Oct , no restrictions apply. Personal or Vanity Plates for either AV or EAV is a total of $90.00 a year.

[Afordman31]

Michigan antique plate $37.00 for 10 years, but the state also charges $39.00 per antique car each year with historic plate when you insure the car.
If you don't keep the insurance on the vehicle you are supposed to turn in the plate. Afordman31

[Keith True]

Joe,you must be getting your plates through the town clerk instead of going through the DMV.It avoids going to the DMV,but you pay fees for it.I just renewed 4 antiques,they were $15.per month each.The town part was $9.each,and the state part $6.each.The state bases it on 50 cents per month.I added two new registrations,it was still $15.total each.Most towns are now plate outlets for the state,but they all have varying fees to do it.There are no plate fees through the state.Depending where you are it can save you a lot of time.I'm in Epping,one mile from the registry.No tax,(well,the town tax that is in the $9).YOM plates are free.Just show them the plate,they record it,and hand you a hand written certificate saying you can use it.I don't know if you are aware of it,but no inspection is required when the vehicle reaches 60 years of age.Unless the word has gotten out most police officers will tell you that the inspection law says pre-49 is exempt.Most are unaware that the law was amended to set the age at 60 years and moves up every year.I have the amendment printed out and carry it to show.The state website is horrible to navigate,there are lots of laws that are couched in other voted in blocks that are hard to find.Seat belts aren't required for kids either,but the year cutoff for that has bounced between 1966 and 1968.Most seemed unaware of that too,so I carry a copy of the seatbelt law with me.

[ronn]

In New Jersey one time tag 28.58 New Jersey is not a creep state good luck

Billwill-I am paying 46. one time- do they give you some sort of discount in Cape May.......?

[Joe K]

Originally Posted by Keith True

Joe,you must be getting your plates through the town clerk instead of going through the DMV.It avoids going to the DMV,but you pay fees for it.I just renewed 4 antiques,they were $15.per month each.The town part was $9.each,and the state part $6.each.The state bases it on 50 cents per month.I added two new registrations,it was still $15.total each.Most towns are now plate outlets for the state,but they all have varying fees to do it.There are no plate fees through the state.Depending where you are it can save you a lot of time.I'm in Epping,one mile from the registry.No tax,(well,the town tax that is in the $9).YOM plates are free.Just show them the plate,they record it,and hand you a hand written certificate saying you can use it.I don't know if you are aware of it,but no inspection is required when the vehicle reaches 60 years of age.Unless the word has gotten out most police officers will tell you that the inspection law says pre-49 is exempt.Most are unaware that the law was amended to set the age at 60 years and moves up every year.I have the amendment printed out and carry it to show.The state website is horrible to navigate,there are lots of laws that are couched in other voted in blocks that are hard to find.Seat belts aren't required for kids either,but the year cutoff for that has bounced between 1966 and 1968.Most seemed unaware of that too,so I carry a copy of the seatbelt law with me.

Mostly the wife has done the town plate stuff, so yes.

I still have my Antique Auto NH plate from 10 years ago. I suppose that one might be used now and save the plate fee. I've been looking over Ebay to see about buying a 1929 pair of NH plates. Christmas is not far away!

The 60 year exemption makes sense: the last time I showed up at Sullivan Tire for my annual inspection, the tire jockey was seeking guidance from the manager on HOW EXACTLY to do an inspection on a car with mechanical brakes.

"Just put the sticker on and don't worry about it" the manager says to him in a hushed voice.

I'm sure the environmental inspection was done to the same high level of quality.

If you can scan those two printouts (red above) you give the fine officers, I would appreciate your effort to send them to me. It's been 10 years since the Model A has been on the road (gosh time FLIES when you're not having fun also - maybe fun or not fun makes no difference?)

I'll send you a PM with my Email addy.

Joe K

[willowbilly3]

Originally Posted by darrylkmc

It has tripled here in Alaska in the last few years on Historic Vehicle plates.

Up to $15.00 for a permanent plate and registration, Titles are also up to $15.00.

Most modern everyday vehicles are $100.00 for a 2 year registration.

This is online, if available, it will cost you an extra $10.00 if you show up at DMV to see a smiling face.

Darryl in Fairbanks
Temps are rising up to +7

At least you can walk out of the DMV with a title when doing a transfer. I've never lived anywhere else that printed the new title on the spot.

[whirnot]

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Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

Bill, does that mean you are issued new plates every 5 years??

No, you keep the same plate and you are issued a date sticker every 5 years. All Horseless Carriage plates expire at the same time.
YOM plates follow the same

[Keith True]

I have the RSA for the inspection amendment,it is,RSA 266:62-A.It takes me hours to make my was around the state laws online.Then,to top it all off,at the bottom of the pages it tells you the online version is a guide,and to refer to the bound versions for the whole and in-effect laws.The tire shop is after your money,if you tell them you want an inspection they feel who are they to say no?We don't have any environmental inspection,the closest thing we have is the OBD plug in for 1996 and up cars and trucks under 8800 GVW.They may be calling it environmental inspection,it sounds important and a lot of people like the sound of it.Besides,it is a good excuse to peel some more money out of your pocket.Sullivan is no worse than any other chain automotive shop,they exist to part you with every penny they possibly can short of robbery.

[Franchise_24]

Ohio has historical plates you can get that are good for 50 years. I forget how much again, I was thinking around $40.00

[whirnot]

Originally Posted by Ed Wendell

Moan and groan all you want, I wish I could pay $12.67 a year. MY '53 F100 cost me $110.00 this year.
Just paid $130.00 for YOM plates for my Model A.

Ed

The groaning was in jest, and actually it is $12.67 for 5 years.
I king of figured there woul be more disparity than there is.

[marc hildebrant]

Minnesota has a one time charge for pioneer plates. I think I spent $25.

Marc

[barkleydave]

KY 60 bucks one time. (renew annually so tax is paid!)
Dig is the personal property tax.
My MGA was .61 cents! went up to 27 bucks in one year!
Not sure what the A will be

[fiddlybits]

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

Illinois has two categories, Antique Vehicle, $6.00 a year or Extended Antique Vehicle, $51.00 a year. Difference is the months and reasons when your can drive on the roads. AV is for driving to and from gas stations, to and from events or shows only, year round. EAV has those same restrictions from 1 Nov- 28 Feb. From 1 Mar-31 Oct , no restrictions apply. Personal or Vanity Plates for either AV or EAV is a total of $90.00 a year.

Don't forget normal passenger plates at 115. No restrictions.

Had a great time playing in the snow last week and the rain this past weekend. (have to get a fan for window defrosting...but other than that it was great)

[Fred K-OR]

In Oregon it depends on the type of old car plates. The ones I have are for parades, short drives, etc. and they were somewhere around $200 for one time fee.

[mshmodela]

In Ohio a one time fee for a historic plate and a 1931 Ohio plate cost me ~$40.00 --this past spring.

[Bob C]

I just got the renewal for one of my A's and it was only $126.00
got to love CA.

Bob

[31 Woody]

The California renewal is actually $10 per year, but there is a "12 month enjoyment tax" of $100 for a total of $110.

[Bib Overalls]

Arkansas is $25 one time. Vehicle must be 25 years old or older and in original condition. That means anything built in 1988 or earlier is eligible. See a lot of daily drivers tagged historical. Several years ago a state representative said a lot of people were flaunting the 2,000 miles per year restriction that went with historical registrations. He wanted to eliminate the historical registration program. The legislature concluded the program should continue and that the 2,000 mile annual restriction was "unenforceable" and it was dropped. I like Arkansas.

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by 31 woody

the california renewal is actually $10 per year, but there is a "12 month enjoyment tax" of $100 for a total of $110.

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hster]

Originally Posted by Bib Overalls

The legislature concluded the program should continue and that the 2,000 mile annual restriction was "unenforceable" and it was dropped. I like Arkansas.

Exactly, How can a mileage restriction be enforced, just another toothless rule.

[C4engr]

I have just renewed two Model A Fords for yr 2015

1931 Street Rod 4 Door S/W Sedan....... $129

1931 4 Door Sedan ..............

Both have YOM plates

Gotta love CA DMV..


Roger

[Bertha]

Originally Posted by Hster

Exactly, How can a mileage restriction be enforced, just another toothless rule.

The NY DMV doesn't enforce, it's the insurance companies that may step in.
Our policy has a 2500mi/yr clause that is not enforced unless it's being abused. Our agent said in 30yrs he's never had to cancel a policy.

Bob

[38 Ford Pickup]

Here in Ontario, Canada the cost is $18 per year. For my wife's Sentra its $96.00 per year so for my Three Girls... Betsy, Mrs. Cleaver and Baker its just $54 for the 3

[a-bone newby]

in b.c. icbc. charges 109.00 for the collector plate for a year which is liability only
i have hagarty for collision and comprehensive which is 190.00 a year in canada for my a. ps. icbc is the insurance corporation of b.c. a real rip off but no private corp. is allowed

[TonyM]

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

Illinois has two categories, Antique Vehicle, $6.00 a year or Extended Antique Vehicle, $51.00 a year. Difference is the months and reasons when your can drive on the roads. AV is for driving to and from gas stations, to and from events or shows only, year round. EAV has those same restrictions from 1 Nov- 28 Feb. From 1 Mar-31 Oct , no restrictions apply. Personal or Vanity Plates for either AV or EAV is a total of $90.00 a year.

I must be in another Illinois.

I received my Illinois Antique License Plate / Registration for 2015 a few weeks back;
I just sent it in yesterday.

My Cost: $30 for two years for my 1937 Ford (expires Dec 2016).

I am interested in the Extended Antique Vehicle Registration but it was not listed on my current Registration card as an option.

TM

[eagle]

I must be in another Illinois. Yeah, two Illinois' all right. I lived in the Chicago IL for a few years, couldn't get out fast enough. I liked the "other" IL, the NOT Chicago one.

[31 Model A]

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Originally Posted by TonyM

I must be in another Illinois.

I received my Illinois Antique License Plate / Registration for 2015 a few weeks back;
I just sent it in yesterday.

My Cost: $30 for two years for my 1937 Ford (expires Dec 2016).

I am interested in the Extended Antique Vehicle Registration but it was not listed on my current Registration card as an option.

TM

I don't know how you'll get it switched over. Give a call to your local DMV. There is a form you have to copy off and sign, you might have already done that with your AV plate, I don't know.

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/de...queexpand.html

[Slotblog]

$20 to register a Model A in GA for a year (well, until my birthday in July, then yearly). No need to apply for a title for a car older than 1963.

Wanted an Antique Car tag until I found out they cost $80 for no benefit other than the tag.

[Bertha]

Originally Posted by Slotblog

$20 to register a Model A in GA for a year (well, until my birthday in July, then yearly). No need to apply for a title for a car older than 1963.

Wanted an Antique Car tag until I found out they cost $80 for no benefit other than the tag.

Is a YOM registration/plate offered in GA?
Permanent plate 2yr, registration in NY.

Bob

[Slotblog]

YOM is offered but I haven't looked up the details on how that program works yet.

[Brother Hesekiel]

California:

Registration Fee ................$ 70
License Fee .......................$ 23
Weight Fee ........................$ 0 (can be a big hit on a 5,000 lbs pickup!)
Special Plate Fee ............... $ 10 (my 1931 YOM plates)
County/District Fees ...........$ 9
Owner Responsibility Fee .... $ 0
Total .................................$112

[Boston Bruce]

Commonwealth of Massachusetts:
Yearly registration fee for ANTIQUE plate - $50
Yearly exise tax - $5
Yearly safety inspection - $29 (I think it has actually gone up a couple of $ so now more)

[garyjohn]

Go old California is $100 a year with YOM plates.

[Brobrian]

Looks like no one tops CA!
Just paid mine today.
29 Coupe (with personalized plates) $120
31 PU (with personalized plates) $129

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by Ed Wendell

Moan and groan all you want, I wish I could pay $12.67 a year. MY '53 F100 cost me $110.00 this year.
Just paid $130.00 for YOM plates for my Model A.

Ed

me too, welcome to California!

[1oldtimer]

Originally Posted by Ed Wendell

Moan and groan all you want, I wish I could pay $12.67 a year. MY '53 F100 cost me $110.00 this year.
Just paid $130.00 for YOM plates for my Model A.

Ed

Yes sir, California Sucks for car registration. $100.00 for the '47, $90 for the '28, $129 for the '54 all have year of manufacture plates....... and that's PER YEAR. I think rock bottom is around $80 a year for any car.

[larry/Texas]

My '33 Tudor was last licensed in Oregon in 1963 prior to moving out of state. In November 2012, I put it back on the road in Texas. It cost me $144.00 to register it with a license, etc. good until March 2013, 4 months time. The car has YOM plates and the March 2014 license charge was $61.00 for five (5) years. They gave me a small tag with 03 18 to bolt on the rear license plate. $5.00 per year is pretty good.

Things are good in TEXAS.

larry

[Lawrie]

Well be shocked, to licence the A for a year on full rego, apronx $850, the 33 on concessional rego $175
V8 fairlane $1050
Lawrie

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by whirnot

I just got the renewal notices for both my Models A's (and my 51 F1). Man these things are expensive to license. $12.67 for each one. And the plates are only good for 5 years...... So I am curious what does your state charge?

Point of reference, My 5 year old F150 is still over $300 per year.

Hey Bill,
Yeah, stay in Co as $12.67 a year is indeed a treat renewal price !
Just got mine for '30 roadster and pay $81 each year for renewal !!

[nosbod]

Well its nice to know that something is cheaper on this side of the pond as we pay zero to keep our elderly cars on the road in terms of taxes and attract very favourable insurance rates as well .

John

[Bertha]

Originally Posted by 1oldtimer

Yes sir, California Sucks for car registration. $100.00 for the '47, $90 for the '28, $129 for the '54 all have year of manufacture plates....... and that's PER YEAR. I think rock bottom is around $80 a year for any car.

Yes....but look at all the well maintained ribbons of frustration you have to creep around on out there.


Bob

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by nosbod

Well its nice to know that something is cheaper on this side of the pond as we pay zero to keep our elderly cars on the road in terms of taxes and attract very favourable insurance rates as well .

John

I hear tell, to receive the zero tax and reduced insurance rates, the driver is required to wear a derby???

You mean the UK doesn't require a VAT on elderly cars?

[Jack S.]

Most all should feel lucky....... Massachusetts is $50 each year. Plates good until ruined. Renewal is December 1 each year - good until November 30 of the following year. Initial plate charge is the same and good until November 30, then renewal time all over again.