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Old 12-18-2014, 01:22 AM   #1
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Default Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

If I understand correctly, on the '28's and '29's they had a Metal Tube that carried the wire loom to the Generator Cut Out.
I have a '28 but I'm missing this Metal Tube.
Is there any chance someone has the dimensions of it so I can fabricate one for my Truck? It looks fairly simple but; How long?, Outside Diameter of Tubing?, What size Radius and it's location?
It seems like 1/2" Conduit might be close.
Of course an restorable original or if someone could trace theirs onto paper would be Great!
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Old 12-18-2014, 02:11 AM   #2
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I would just buy the tube with wire from one of the Model A parts dealers. 1/2" conduit is too large.
I don't have any specs, but am looking for a good original tube myself.
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Old 12-18-2014, 02:39 AM   #3
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

Refer to the MAFCA "Model A Restoration Guidelines", they will tell you all you need to know about your question.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:52 AM   #4
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

Check reply #3 for a picture of my original conduit. The previous owner didn't have the tubing clamped tight to the water inlet, so it wore a hole in the bottom side from vibration. That's why I'd like to find a good original tube.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...erator+conduit
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:38 AM   #5
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

I bought the aftermarket one which was pretty good, not a show car mind you

https://automotiveamerican.files.wor...2357.jpg?w=460
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:34 AM   #7
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

There is one listed as NOS on E-Bay right now with the Opening bid wanted of $50.00.. No Bids as of yet..
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:53 PM   #8
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Unless its a points show car, I would avoid the metal tube. The metal tube is a fire hazard and that is probably why it was discontinued . If the metal conduit shorts out against the terminal in the terminal box it will cause most of the wiring to burn. It happened once for me and I have known others that had the same experience
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:58 PM   #9
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Check reply #3 for a picture of my original conduit. The previous owner didn't have the tubing clamped tight to the water inlet, so it wore a hole in the bottom side from vibration. That's why I'd like to find a good original tube.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...erator+conduit
Why don't you simply repair the hole?
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

I've never seen one repro-ed. I don't mind a repro.
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Old 12-18-2014, 02:10 PM   #11
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

Thanks for the link. I see enough photos of it to make one. Looks like 3/8 diameter tubing should work. I like how Ford had it flared into the Terminal Box.
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:50 PM   #12
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

Here's mine from my '29 sport coupe. It's original.
Outside diameter is 1/2" thin wall tubing.
Total length aprox. 24".
Flared at both ends.
Oval exit hole in first picture has an extra piece of metal added so it doesn't cut the wire.
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

I have two. The original on my '28 Phaeton has a seam. The reproduction on my self, does not.

The original tubing had a seam; the reproductions did not.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:23 PM   #14
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Why don't you simply repair the hole?
The metal is so thin it would be hard to weld, and hard to make it look like a good original.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:32 PM   #15
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Would J B Weld work?
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:10 PM   #16
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Would J B Weld work?
Not for me. I'd rather just leave the hole. No one would see it or know it's there, except me, and I don't want a hole that shouldn't be there.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:22 PM   #17
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

Should be able to get by with some 1/2" fuel/hydraulic hardline. Peformance shops and or semi truck repair places may have something you could use.

personally when dealing with wire in conduit in a high heat/vibration area i would ditch the metal tube. It will eventually wear the insulation out. The THHN i think it is wire might stand up to this better but wouldnt look correct.

You may be able to get wires inside a rubber hose then slip the hose inside the metal tube, would prevent vibration and would be hidden if its a few inches shorter than the tube itself....
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:28 AM   #18
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

I agree, using some rubber hose/vacuum line around the actual wires on the inside would be safe and hidden if done right.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:32 AM   #19
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Default Re: Metal tube that carries the wiring loom to the Cut Out.

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Here's mine from my '29 sport coupe. It's original.
Outside diameter is 1/2" thin wall tubing.
Total length aprox. 24".
Flared at both ends.
Oval exit hole in first picture has an extra piece of metal added so it doesn't cut the wire.
Thank You! Those photos are Nice.That looks perfect.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:35 AM   #20
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I bought the aftermarket one which was pretty good, not a show car mind you

https://automotiveamerican.files.wor...2357.jpg?w=460
Who sells the aftermarket ones? I can't seem to find one.
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