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Mike V. Florida · 03-01-2011, 05:56 PM

Since the fenders and splash aprons were dipped enamel and the body Nitro, would the sheen of the black have been different?

d.j. moordigian · 03-01-2011, 06:24 PM

Mike,

You know I have asked this same question and think it would be. I'm think I
will paint my car with Lacquer(body), there has to be a different reflective
sheen ( % of ), which I think is in the Paint & Finish Book.

Dudley

John Butts in CT · 03-01-2011, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

Since the fenders and splash aprons were dipped enamel and the body Nitro, would the sheen of the black have been different?

I've often wondered the same thing. Wonder how sags and drips would fare in modern judging?

A-Jay · 03-01-2011, 06:48 PM

Mike, where did the term Nitro come from ? I have been around the block a coupe of times (not lately) but have never heard that term before.

John Butts in CT · 03-01-2011, 07:00 PM

"nitrocellulose lacquer" Did it in 1967. Never again.

John Butts in CT · 03-01-2011, 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff/Illinois

I have seen cars done in 'nitro' and after a few years they look kinda like a hard boiled Easter egg that was dropped several times from about 6 feet on hard pavement.

Wouldn't be MY choice for paint that's for sure.

Hence the "Did it in 1967. Never again."

Roadster62 · 03-01-2011, 08:05 PM

Yes, the two will have a different sheen. I did the chassis on my Riley 4Pory in Sherwin Willimiams Super Coach black back in the 1970's and the body in nitrocellulose lacquer. They both looked great, but different paints have different looks. Still think Super Coach black is the blackest black out there. I'd do it all over again in Nito if I still owned it, looked great for the 14 years I owned it.

rdscouple · 03-01-2011, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff/Illinois

I have seen cars done in 'nitro' and after a few years they look kinda like a hard boiled Easter egg that was dropped several times from about 6 feet on hard pavement.

Wouldn't be MY choice for paint that's for sure.

I painted some of my Model As back in the 70s using nitro lacquer on the bodies and acrylic lacquer on the black fenders. 35 or so years later the nitro is still good. The acrylic lacquer is checking so I'm going to sand it down and repaint the black with single stage urethane.

Bruce,Upstate NY · 03-01-2011, 09:15 PM

Given the proper substrates, cracked lacquer was applied too thickly. In 1955 the duPont factory rep told me that factory spec was 3 mils and proved it on a new car. I remember it well as he measured the paint on the front of my new VW at .020. We saw a lot of cracking on "custom" repaints. You've heard the term "20 coats of hand rubbed lacquer"?

Bruce,Upstate NY · 03-01-2011, 09:17 PM

Sorry, I forgot to mention the above was on Buicks

Gary Karr · 03-02-2011, 01:02 AM

I painted the body of my '29 tudor in Nitrocellulose Lacquer in 2001 and it still looks great. If it begins to look dull, I simply polish it and it comes right back up. I painted the fender group in black single stage urethane and it still shines like I shot it yesterday.

03-01-2011, 05:56 PM	#1
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	All Black cars Since the fenders and splash aprons were dipped enamel and the body Nitro, would the sheen of the black have been different? __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

03-01-2011, 06:24 PM	#2
d.j. moordigian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fresno, Ca. Posts: 3,636	Re: All Black cars Mike, You know I have asked this same question and think it would be. I'm think I will paint my car with Lacquer(body), there has to be a different reflective sheen ( % of ), which I think is in the Paint & Finish Book. Dudley

03-01-2011, 06:48 PM	#4
A-Jay Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fairfax, Va. Posts: 127	Re: All Black cars Mike, where did the term Nitro come from ? I have been around the block a coupe of times (not lately) but have never heard that term before. __________________ Where there's confusion, there's money!

03-01-2011, 07:00 PM	#5
John Butts in CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southeastern Connecticut Posts: 464	Re: All Black cars "nitrocellulose lacquer" Did it in 1967. Never again.

03-01-2011, 08:05 PM	#7
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,441	Re: All Black cars Yes, the two will have a different sheen. I did the chassis on my Riley 4Pory in Sherwin Willimiams Super Coach black back in the 1970's and the body in nitrocellulose lacquer. They both looked great, but different paints have different looks. Still think Super Coach black is the blackest black out there. I'd do it all over again in Nito if I still owned it, looked great for the 14 years I owned it.

03-01-2011, 09:15 PM	#9
Bruce,Upstate NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, NY Posts: 385	Re: All Black cars Given the proper substrates, cracked lacquer was applied too thickly. In 1955 the duPont factory rep told me that factory spec was 3 mils and proved it on a new car. I remember it well as he measured the paint on the front of my new VW at .020. We saw a lot of cracking on "custom" repaints. You've heard the term "20 coats of hand rubbed lacquer"?

03-01-2011, 09:17 PM	#10
Bruce,Upstate NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, NY Posts: 385	Re: All Black cars Sorry, I forgot to mention the above was on Buicks

03-02-2011, 01:02 AM	#11
Gary Karr Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,487	Re: All Black cars I painted the body of my '29 tudor in Nitrocellulose Lacquer in 2001 and it still looks great. If it begins to look dull, I simply polish it and it comes right back up. I painted the fender group in black single stage urethane and it still shines like I shot it yesterday.