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55ford272 · 05-30-2016, 11:57 AM

Hey guys, I'm new here to the Ford barn and I own a 1955 Ford Fairlane sedan. It's a 272 y block and fordomatic. I've always had problems with the steering in 2 areas. The first problem is power steering only works th the right. I've read that this can be the steering gearbox, but I was also wondering if it could be the power steering control valve that these old Fords have? I don't want to put down a bunch of time and money rebuilding something that doesn't need it. Also, another possibility related problem is that the steering has a lot of play. It's so bad that whenever I hit a bump, the whole front end and steering wheel start violently shaking. It stops only when I move the wheel to one side until the play stops. I tried tightening up the box, but that didn't really help much. Could this also be the box? Or control valve?? I already did tie rod ends so I could rule those out. Any ideas where I should start?? Thanks everyone

dmsfrr · 05-30-2016, 12:08 PM

There was another post about loose '55 steering a week back.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196963

IIRC, the steering box itself is separate from the 'power' steering function.

55ford272 · 05-30-2016, 12:14 PM

Thanks for responding. I actually read that post, but I believe it sounds like he doesn't have power steering. Do you think the issue of power steering in only one direction is the control valve then? And that the looseness is from the box? Where do adjust the drag link, so I can also try that. Thanks for the help

dmsfrr · 05-30-2016, 12:53 PM

I've got a ("was drivable when parked") '55 with power steering and haven't done much with the steering as it isn't the cars biggest problem.

Only in one direction?
It sounds like you have a control valve problem. The steering box itself isn't part of that function.

The '55 & early '56 steering boxes are weaker than the later versions and often benefit from being rebuilt, or replaced.

Adjust the drag link?
Hopefully someone else comments, I haven't looked at one enough to know.

54vicky · 05-30-2016, 01:47 PM

check the ram as well.the spool valve may need to be adjusted.a manual will give you details.as to slop a rebuild of box is needed to remove the play if you google there are a couple of listings.parts are available from Macs as well as others.you will never remove the slop by turning the adjuster on box it is for fine tune not as a substitute for rebuild.also turning the adjuster out to lunch you may end up loosing all steering when tooling a long at speed.

55ford272 · 05-30-2016, 02:08 PM

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Thanks so much guys. I'll take off the old valve and send it in for a rebuild. I'll probably end up rebuilding the box as well. Do you guys know what oil the box takes? Thanks again

Hot Rod Reverend · 05-30-2016, 07:01 PM

You may find some good tips and surely some photos here...

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145936

Not too sure about the guy who did all that work though, you may need to check his credentials!

55ford272 · 05-30-2016, 09:04 PM

Wow hot rod Reverend. I'm speechless, really amazing work. And tons of well needed info! Thanks!

Hot Rod Reverend · 05-30-2016, 10:41 PM

Unfortunately the car does not have power steering so that is not identified in the blog, but at least you can see what a steering gear looks like and go through the normal parts of a front end.
enjoy

Daves55Sedan · 05-31-2016, 12:25 AM

It sounds to me like the power steering drag link sleeve itself might be at fault here. I would remove the control valve and drag link as an assembly. Take the drag link off and disassemble it. Inspect all the guts for wear and burrs. Make sure the spring is not broken or missing entirely. Look at the grease fitting on top of the drag link housing and make sure that it does not interfere with movement of the sleeve when installed. You do know that the drag link does need to be greased with a grease gun, right?
Get a '55 or '56 Ford car shop manual and check the parts you have with the illustrations in the book to see if anything is missing in your assembly.
Now, usually wheel shimmy may indicate an improper front end alignment. First, check your front wheel bearings to see if there is too much slop there.

STEERING STEVE · 06-02-2016, 02:54 PM

This sounds to me like you have a control valve issue. That would most likely be the cause of the one way steering and could also be causing the shake in the wheel. As far as the play you seem to have, if you get the front end off the ground and turn the input shaft of the gear and the output shaft takes a while to react you probably found the cause of the play. If you would like to diagnose this a little more feel free to give us a call at 1-800-334-5749 and you can ask for Dan or Steve. Good luck

05-30-2016, 11:57 AM	#1
55ford272 Junior Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4	1955 steering problems Hey guys, I'm new here to the Ford barn and I own a 1955 Ford Fairlane sedan. It's a 272 y block and fordomatic. I've always had problems with the steering in 2 areas. The first problem is power steering only works th the right. I've read that this can be the steering gearbox, but I was also wondering if it could be the power steering control valve that these old Fords have? I don't want to put down a bunch of time and money rebuilding something that doesn't need it. Also, another possibility related problem is that the steering has a lot of play. It's so bad that whenever I hit a bump, the whole front end and steering wheel start violently shaking. It stops only when I move the wheel to one side until the play stops. I tried tightening up the box, but that didn't really help much. Could this also be the box? Or control valve?? I already did tie rod ends so I could rule those out. Any ideas where I should start?? Thanks everyone

05-30-2016, 12:08 PM	#2
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	Re: 1955 steering problems There was another post about loose '55 steering a week back. http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196963 IIRC, the steering box itself is separate from the 'power' steering function.

05-30-2016, 12:14 PM	#3
55ford272 Junior Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4	Re: 1955 steering problems Thanks for responding. I actually read that post, but I believe it sounds like he doesn't have power steering. Do you think the issue of power steering in only one direction is the control valve then? And that the looseness is from the box? Where do adjust the drag link, so I can also try that. Thanks for the help

05-30-2016, 12:53 PM	#4
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	Re: 1955 steering problems I've got a ("was drivable when parked") '55 with power steering and haven't done much with the steering as it isn't the cars biggest problem. Only in one direction? It sounds like you have a control valve problem. The steering box itself isn't part of that function. The '55 & early '56 steering boxes are weaker than the later versions and often benefit from being rebuilt, or replaced. Adjust the drag link? Hopefully someone else comments, I haven't looked at one enough to know.

05-30-2016, 01:47 PM	#5
54vicky Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Oakville Ontario Posts: 586	Re: 1955 steering problems check the ram as well.the spool valve may need to be adjusted.a manual will give you details.as to slop a rebuild of box is needed to remove the play if you google there are a couple of listings.parts are available from Macs as well as others.you will never remove the slop by turning the adjuster on box it is for fine tune not as a substitute for rebuild.also turning the adjuster out to lunch you may end up loosing all steering when tooling a long at speed.

05-30-2016, 02:08 PM	#6
55ford272 Junior Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4	Re: 1955 steering problems Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks so much guys. I'll take off the old valve and send it in for a rebuild. I'll probably end up rebuilding the box as well. Do you guys know what oil the box takes? Thanks again

05-30-2016, 07:01 PM	#7
Hot Rod Reverend Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 917	Re: 1955 steering problems You may find some good tips and surely some photos here... http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145936 Not too sure about the guy who did all that work though, you may need to check his credentials! __________________ Lancaster, California Visit hotrodreverend.com to view hundreds of pictures and videos of the build of the 1955 Ford Club Sedan!

05-30-2016, 09:04 PM	#8
55ford272 Junior Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 4	Re: 1955 steering problems Wow hot rod Reverend. I'm speechless, really amazing work. And tons of well needed info! Thanks!

05-30-2016, 10:41 PM	#9
Hot Rod Reverend Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 917	Re: 1955 steering problems Unfortunately the car does not have power steering so that is not identified in the blog, but at least you can see what a steering gear looks like and go through the normal parts of a front end. enjoy __________________ Lancaster, California Visit hotrodreverend.com to view hundreds of pictures and videos of the build of the 1955 Ford Club Sedan! Last edited by Hot Rod Reverend; 05-31-2016 at 12:51 PM.

05-31-2016, 12:25 AM	#10
Daves55Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Granite City, Illinois Posts: 3,008	Re: 1955 steering problems It sounds to me like the power steering drag link sleeve itself might be at fault here. I would remove the control valve and drag link as an assembly. Take the drag link off and disassemble it. Inspect all the guts for wear and burrs. Make sure the spring is not broken or missing entirely. Look at the grease fitting on top of the drag link housing and make sure that it does not interfere with movement of the sleeve when installed. You do know that the drag link does need to be greased with a grease gun, right? Get a '55 or '56 Ford car shop manual and check the parts you have with the illustrations in the book to see if anything is missing in your assembly. Now, usually wheel shimmy may indicate an improper front end alignment. First, check your front wheel bearings to see if there is too much slop there.

06-02-2016, 02:54 PM	#11
STEERING STEVE Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 2	Re: 1955 steering problems This sounds to me like you have a control valve issue. That would most likely be the cause of the one way steering and could also be causing the shake in the wheel. As far as the play you seem to have, if you get the front end off the ground and turn the input shaft of the gear and the output shaft takes a while to react you probably found the cause of the play. If you would like to diagnose this a little more feel free to give us a call at 1-800-334-5749 and you can ask for Dan or Steve. Good luck