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Harley03joe · 01-07-2015, 05:45 PM

I'm Looking For Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box, From
Randy Gross
Son of Mel & Jackie Gross

Please Let Me Know What You Folks Think, To Make Steering Easy
Thank You
Harley03joe

willobs · 01-07-2015, 05:54 PM

I have one all pros no con's. Also great support from Randy

CarlG · 01-07-2015, 05:59 PM

Although mine is not from Randy (or Mel), I love it.

Harley03joe · 01-07-2015, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willobs

I have one all pros no con's. Also great support from Randy

Thank You For The Info I Love The Easy Steering I'LL Get
Thanks
Harley03joe

Harley03joe · 01-07-2015, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlG

Although mine is not from Randy (or Mel), I love it.

Where Did You Get Yours ??

Thank You For The Info I Love The Easy Steering I'LL Get
Thanks
Harley03joe

CarlG · 01-07-2015, 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley03joe

Where Did You Get Yours ?? ...

Modelaonly.net

Harley03joe · 01-07-2015, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlG

Modelaonly.net

Ok Thanks

Anteek29 · 01-07-2015, 06:48 PM

I am planning to do the same install, so I am happy to read the positives.
My 7 tooth box is worn to the point where the steering wheel has 4" of play.

Harley03joe · 01-07-2015, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteek29

I am planning to do the same install, so I am happy to read the positives.
My 7 tooth box is worn to the point where the steering wheel has 4" of play.

Wow 4" Of Play Thats A Lot
Are You Going To Get It From
Randy Gross
Son of Mel & Jackie Gross
(714) 292-8660

Smog Tech · 01-07-2015, 08:28 PM

I have an F-100 steering gear from Mel Gross in my Model A. Love it!! Talk to his son Randy, great guy to work with.

harleynut · 01-07-2015, 08:33 PM

I put one in my 28 two years ago.......I do like it......thought it was really pricey but I bought it anyway. Not hard to install. Good support from those guts

hardtimes · 01-07-2015, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley03joe

I'm Looking For Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box, From
Randy Gross
Son of Mel & Jackie Gross

Please Let Me Know What You Folks Think, To Make Steering Easy
Thank You
Harley03joe

Hey Joe,
You will not go wrong with this equipment...as I noticed easy steering immediately. NO one who has looked into engine compartment even notices that it ain't original ! And, who cares if one of a hundred does anyway

Big hammer · 01-07-2015, 08:41 PM

IMHO a overhauled A gearbox is the way to go. Disassembled my first 2 tooth at age of 16
Cleaned,reassembled and ADJUSTED properly work good for me! Was not hard to steer returned to center and no more play. When adjusting you need to follow each step !

southfork · 01-07-2015, 09:57 PM

Does any one know if the steering boxes in the 1953-1957 Ford 3/4 tons are the same box and gears as the 53-56 1/2 ton F-100s? The box looks the same externally. If so, I know where to nab one.

SSsssteamer · 01-07-2015, 10:11 PM

I just finished rebuilding the seven tooth for my 1929 Tudor. I was able to get all of the parts needed new, except the worm on the steering wheel shaft. I had to reuse my old worm which wasn't too bad. I also had to use my lathe to turn down the end of the steering wheel shaft to true again. I guess that they all need it. Then I had to ream the new bushing to fit the bottom end of the shaft. All said and done, it needed the rebuild as it also had 4 inches of lost motion in the steering wheel, but next time I would rebuild a two tooth gear box for it. The two tooth has more adjustments to keep the steering gear with in its operating limits. The seven tooth only has two adjustments and that is not enough adjustments. F 100 gear box? It is not necessary to use when the two tooth box has rebuild parts available for it. I rebuilt the two tooth gear box for my 1930 Std Phaeton and it works like a dream.

Ron Lachniet · 01-07-2015, 10:18 PM

I adapted a F100 steering box and am very happy with it. I bought another one in case someone else in our club wanted one but when I got it I found that it was off from a larger truck and the dimensions were slightly larger. I think it would work but sold it again because I wasn't sure if it would have enough clearance on the engine side of the box. I asked if anyone had tried it on the Hamb site but never got an answer.

Gerald D. Walker · 01-07-2015, 11:00 PM

I have the F100 steering box and it's great. Has anyone found any additional improvement installing the shortened Pitman arm too?

V4F · 01-08-2015, 09:45 AM

I also have one of mels boxes . like it .........

TnA · 01-08-2015, 10:43 AM

the steering shaft enters the top of the box on the f100, problems for a 8ba exaust. the f1 box steering shaft enters the lower portion of the box . more room for headers/ manifold.

CarlG · 01-08-2015, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald D. Walker

I have the F100 steering box and it's great. Has anyone found any additional improvement installing the shortened Pitman arm too?

I would be interested in this aspect as well.

01-07-2015, 05:45 PM	#1
Harley03joe Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Miramar Fl Posts: 195	Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I'm Looking For Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box, From Randy Gross Son of Mel & Jackie Gross Please Let Me Know What You Folks Think, To Make Steering Easy Thank You Harley03joe

01-07-2015, 05:54 PM	#2
willobs Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SW Fla Posts: 202	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I have one all pros no con's. Also great support from Randy

01-07-2015, 05:59 PM	#3
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box Although mine is not from Randy (or Mel), I love it. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

01-07-2015, 06:48 PM	#8
Anteek29 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Santa Maria, CA Posts: 985	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I am planning to do the same install, so I am happy to read the positives. My 7 tooth box is worn to the point where the steering wheel has 4" of play. __________________ Alan 1929 Special Coupe 1941 Pick-Up 1955 Victoria

01-07-2015, 08:28 PM	#10
Smog Tech Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 145	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I have an F-100 steering gear from Mel Gross in my Model A. Love it!! Talk to his son Randy, great guy to work with.

01-07-2015, 08:33 PM	#11
harleynut Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 279	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I put one in my 28 two years ago.......I do like it......thought it was really pricey but I bought it anyway. Not hard to install. Good support from those guts

01-07-2015, 08:41 PM	#13
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box IMHO a overhauled A gearbox is the way to go. Disassembled my first 2 tooth at age of 16 Cleaned,reassembled and ADJUSTED properly work good for me! Was not hard to steer returned to center and no more play. When adjusting you need to follow each step !

01-07-2015, 09:57 PM	#14
southfork Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 416	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box Does any one know if the steering boxes in the 1953-1957 Ford 3/4 tons are the same box and gears as the 53-56 1/2 ton F-100s? The box looks the same externally. If so, I know where to nab one.

01-07-2015, 10:11 PM	#15
SSsssteamer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sedro-Woolley, WA Posts: 1,023	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I just finished rebuilding the seven tooth for my 1929 Tudor. I was able to get all of the parts needed new, except the worm on the steering wheel shaft. I had to reuse my old worm which wasn't too bad. I also had to use my lathe to turn down the end of the steering wheel shaft to true again. I guess that they all need it. Then I had to ream the new bushing to fit the bottom end of the shaft. All said and done, it needed the rebuild as it also had 4 inches of lost motion in the steering wheel, but next time I would rebuild a two tooth gear box for it. The two tooth has more adjustments to keep the steering gear with in its operating limits. The seven tooth only has two adjustments and that is not enough adjustments. F 100 gear box? It is not necessary to use when the two tooth box has rebuild parts available for it. I rebuilt the two tooth gear box for my 1930 Std Phaeton and it works like a dream.

01-07-2015, 10:18 PM	#16
Ron Lachniet Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lowell MI Posts: 167	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I adapted a F100 steering box and am very happy with it. I bought another one in case someone else in our club wanted one but when I got it I found that it was off from a larger truck and the dimensions were slightly larger. I think it would work but sold it again because I wasn't sure if it would have enough clearance on the engine side of the box. I asked if anyone had tried it on the Hamb site but never got an answer.

01-07-2015, 11:00 PM	#17
Gerald D. Walker Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 18	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I have the F100 steering box and it's great. Has anyone found any additional improvement installing the shortened Pitman arm too?

01-08-2015, 09:45 AM	#18
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box I also have one of mels boxes . like it ......... __________________ V4f

01-08-2015, 10:43 AM	#19
TnA Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: central BC [Canada] Posts: 38	Re: Need Pro's & Con's On The F-100 Steering Box the steering shaft enters the top of the box on the f100, problems for a 8ba exaust. the f1 box steering shaft enters the lower portion of the box . more room for headers/ manifold.