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11-06-2010, 02:57 PM | #1 |
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Open driveline on Model A
One time at the North West regional I saw a fellow selling kits to convert the Model A to an open driveline. Does anyone know his name?
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11-06-2010, 03:00 PM | #2 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
More importantly why?
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11-06-2010, 03:31 PM | #3 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
Why not? I plan on using an automatic transmission and it will make the installation easier.
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11-06-2010, 03:45 PM | #4 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
Perhaps a question that should be asked in the Hot Rod section.
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11-06-2010, 04:05 PM | #5 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
The conversion to a 5 speed Muncie transmission requires an open driveline.
The people that build the kits might be able to help with just the drive line. LINKS http://munciekokomo.citysearch.com/p...torations.html http://lainefamily.com/ModelAFiles/ModelAT5.htm |
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Let's face it, there's a higher likelihood that your post will be seen by someone who has made this type of change on the "rod" side of things than here. That's because a lot of rodders make changes like this when switching over to a different motor, transmission and rear end--so possibly the majority of the members of those boards have something relevant to say. On this particular forum, I'd guess that this type of modification has been done by a very small percentage of members. That's not to say that these types of questions can't/shouldn't be asked here, just that you're more likely to get useful information from the forums where more folks have first-hand knowledge. But that's just my rose-colored-glasses view. |
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11-06-2010, 04:39 PM | #12 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
John, Hi from NZ, Hotrod works & speedway motors do one, Some smaller tractors use a 6 spline PTO coupler for drive to to impliments, seen them used , In order to create a cheap seal on orig rear bango you can cut the end of orig torque tube & fit seal inside, , Hope this helps, Cheers Derek.
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11-06-2010, 05:21 PM | #13 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
I have not tried it, but I have heard that the F-1 pickup pinion shaft will interchange. With that you
can put on an external U-Joint. And I don't care why you are doing it. |
11-06-2010, 05:25 PM | #14 |
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John, i dont know if this will help but here is another site. Mark.
http://www.flat-o.com/carproducts/flatomatic.htm |
11-06-2010, 06:54 PM | #15 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
Steve Becker just completed an open drive line A rear end for me. Bert's Model A in Denver 800/321-1931
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11-06-2010, 10:02 PM | #16 |
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John;
Remember you can contact Art Moore down in Upland, I believe he has 5 "A"'s with open drive lines, auto trans adaptors also, call him at 909-982-7790, you can tell him I sent you!
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
The torque tube is an important part of the rear....If its removed another form of locating the rear end is needed to keep the rear end from twisting....
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11-07-2010, 08:07 AM | #18 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
Most of this was over my head. I hadn't heard this kind of Model A "modification" discussed before. What are the advantages of removing the torque tube? And like brokenspoke says, aren't you now allowing the whole rear end to "float" more and sending thrust and rear axle twisting/torque loads into areas where they weren't intended by design to go?
How do the benefits outway the risks? Forgive the time-worn cliche, but Henry designed it that way - with a torque tube - for a reason! (in MOST cases, anyway... - when he wasn't doing things just to save a penny). He could have saved a lot of time and pennies by eliminating the torque tube! - but he didn't! Earle |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
The speedway motors looks like a good way to go. Thanks everyone for the input. Just for the record I have some subscribers that have requested we look into installing an automatic transmission because of health reasons they can not drive a manual transmission car and want to continue in the Model A hobby.
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11-07-2010, 10:38 AM | #20 |
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Re: Open driveline on Model A
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I'm working on my second A without a torque tube. The wish bones are easily modified with a 1/4" by 1" strap welded on both edges to the bottom seam of the wishbones. This was necessary to install a T-5 transmission. There is another piece that bolts to the crossmember where the shifter tower is located. Note the master cylinder location using the stock cross piece. I often wonder if Edsel got a ration from the old man when made modifications to his Fords? |
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