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fourbangerbob · 02-27-2015, 06:07 PM

How do I remove dents-weld-polish SS Grill Shell?

J Wade · 02-27-2015, 07:18 PM

Good question. I have one also off a 1928 but there are no dents. I don't want to damage it. It has what appears to be rusty pits on it. Anyone have any ideas.

Kevin in NJ · 02-27-2015, 10:09 PM

It is not cheap, fast or easy to do a stainless shell.

I am in the process of setting up to do a shell or two for my car. While I have a TIG welder and what seems to be the right filler rods, I bought a pretty decent shell with no real cracks.

Welding will require a good TIG welder and an experienced welder. I am not a great or very experienced welder, but I try anything. My limited trying has found it easy to mess up a shell welding. Fortunately there are many shells that are bad enough they make good practice. I will add that if you are having troubles seeing stuff close cause your eyes are getting old then look for some cheaters at the welding store. The cheaters are magnifing lenses that fit in your helmet. They really improved my welding.

There are videos on Youtube on fixing stainless trim. That would be start.
You need a number of hammer and dollies and lots of sandpaper. Eastwood sells some trim hammers, but you can make do. Look at what the hammers look like to get an idea of what you need.

Once you get the surface leveled. Then you start sanding. and sanding and sanding and sanding........

You need to guess the right courser grit paper that will level the areas you worked. Then move up to a grit that will take out existing scratches. When you know you have cut down below the course scratches then you start with the next finer grit paper. Hours later you are ready for buffing. You only want to buy name brand paper. Packs of 50 3M silicon carbide are are about $45 each.

You will need a decent buffing wheel. I suggest that you buy a kit of wheels that are correct for your buffer. Tarheelparts.com sells what you need and will help you buy the right stuff.
Then you need to know how to buff safely. Keep in mind the buffer can catch the shell and rip it out of your hands if you are lucky, it can also take your hands with it.

For around $300 to $500 ( those are numbers I have heard) you can get a decent shell buffed out and ready to mount.

I suggest you start with some head light shells. They are safer to learn how to buff.

tbirdtbird · 02-27-2015, 10:14 PM

who is out there to do these now that Doug Bruce is not

Kevin in NJ · 02-27-2015, 10:46 PM

Craig Riker I think does them.

Greg liekweg · 02-27-2015, 11:49 PM

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Their is a guy that live near me that fixes SS trim. He is working on some Deloren Quarter panels now.

Mike V. Florida · 02-28-2015, 08:39 AM

The metal used then is not the same as today. a search on the past posts will show that the high end guys use metal from the another shell and use that as a rod for tig welding.

You pretty much answered your own question, you hammer out the dents, using files and sand paper smooth the surface and then use multi-step polishing. Polishing kits can be had from places like Caswell

Benson · 02-28-2015, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Wade

Good question. I have one also off a 1928 but there are no dents. I don't want to damage it. It has what appears to be rusty pits on it. Anyone have any ideas.

Weren't the 28-29 shells Nickel plated and 30-31 Stainless?

I would think that different procedures are used for Nickel vs Stainless.

Mike V. Florida · 02-28-2015, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson

Weren't the 28-29 shells Nickel plated and 30-31 Stainless?

I would think that different procedures are used for Nickel vs Stainless.

You are correct, but only the materials used are different, The same series of welding, hammering, filing, sanding, polishing needs to be done.

Mike V. Florida · 02-28-2015, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson

Weren't the 28-29 shells Nickel plated and 30-31 Stainless?

I would think that different procedures are used for Nickel vs Stainless.

You are correct, but only the materials used are different, The same series of welding, hammering, filing, sanding, polishing needs to be done.

As a matter of fact you can cut a great deal of the plating cost off if you have a polished part to give them first.

Kevin in NJ · 02-28-2015, 10:28 AM

The 28-29 shells are much easier to make right. Especially if you have a TIG welder.

The steel is much softer and it is easier to move the metal and get the lines straight.

The stainless is tough and take quite a bit more effort to planish level and get any waves out.

Chris Haynes · 02-28-2015, 12:45 PM

I simply take my stuff to the dent removal guy in North Hollywood. All he does alll day long is remove dents and fix bent body moldings for cars.

02-27-2015, 06:07 PM	#1
fourbangerbob Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 43	SS Shell--dent removal, weld--polish-HOW? How do I remove dents-weld-polish SS Grill Shell?

02-27-2015, 07:18 PM	#2
J Wade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: San Angelo Texas Posts: 112	Re: SS Shell--dent removal, weld--polish-HOW? Good question. I have one also off a 1928 but there are no dents. I don't want to damage it. It has what appears to be rusty pits on it. Anyone have any ideas.

02-27-2015, 10:09 PM	#3
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: SS Shell--dent removal, weld--polish-HOW? It is not cheap, fast or easy to do a stainless shell. I am in the process of setting up to do a shell or two for my car. While I have a TIG welder and what seems to be the right filler rods, I bought a pretty decent shell with no real cracks. Welding will require a good TIG welder and an experienced welder. I am not a great or very experienced welder, but I try anything. My limited trying has found it easy to mess up a shell welding. Fortunately there are many shells that are bad enough they make good practice. I will add that if you are having troubles seeing stuff close cause your eyes are getting old then look for some cheaters at the welding store. The cheaters are magnifing lenses that fit in your helmet. They really improved my welding. There are videos on Youtube on fixing stainless trim. That would be start. You need a number of hammer and dollies and lots of sandpaper. Eastwood sells some trim hammers, but you can make do. Look at what the hammers look like to get an idea of what you need. Once you get the surface leveled. Then you start sanding. and sanding and sanding and sanding........ You need to guess the right courser grit paper that will level the areas you worked. Then move up to a grit that will take out existing scratches. When you know you have cut down below the course scratches then you start with the next finer grit paper. Hours later you are ready for buffing. You only want to buy name brand paper. Packs of 50 3M silicon carbide are are about $45 each. You will need a decent buffing wheel. I suggest that you buy a kit of wheels that are correct for your buffer. Tarheelparts.com sells what you need and will help you buy the right stuff. Then you need to know how to buff safely. Keep in mind the buffer can catch the shell and rip it out of your hands if you are lucky, it can also take your hands with it. For around $300 to $500 ( those are numbers I have heard) you can get a decent shell buffed out and ready to mount. I suggest you start with some head light shells. They are safer to learn how to buff.

02-27-2015, 10:14 PM	#4
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02-27-2015, 10:46 PM	#5
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: SS Shell--dent removal, weld--polish-HOW? Craig Riker I think does them.

02-27-2015, 11:49 PM	#6
Greg liekweg Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 33	Re: SS Shell--dent removal, weld--polish-HOW? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Their is a guy that live near me that fixes SS trim. He is working on some Deloren Quarter panels now.

02-28-2015, 08:39 AM	#7
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: SS Shell--dent removal, weld--polish-HOW? The metal used then is not the same as today. a search on the past posts will show that the high end guys use metal from the another shell and use that as a rod for tig welding. You pretty much answered your own question, you hammer out the dents, using files and sand paper smooth the surface and then use multi-step polishing. Polishing kits can be had from places like Caswell __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

02-28-2015, 10:28 AM	#11
Kevin in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South East NJ Posts: 3,398	Re: SS Shell--dent removal, weld--polish-HOW? The 28-29 shells are much easier to make right. Especially if you have a TIG welder. The steel is much softer and it is easier to move the metal and get the lines straight. The stainless is tough and take quite a bit more effort to planish level and get any waves out.

02-28-2015, 12:45 PM	#12
Chris Haynes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camarillo, CA and Pine Grove, CA Posts: 2,840	Re: SS Shell--dent removal, weld--polish-HOW? I simply take my stuff to the dent removal guy in North Hollywood. All he does alll day long is remove dents and fix bent body moldings for cars. __________________ 1921 Runabout 1930 Tudor Early 1930 AA Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?