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Old 04-18-2014, 05:03 PM   #1
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Default 1973 302 Timing Tape

OK, Fellas, Little help here, please.
Who sells timing tape for a 6-1/2" crank damper? Facts only, no hearsay, thanx....RooDog...
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:52 PM   #2
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Jeggs or Summitt should have it.
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:19 PM   #3
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i just checked summit has them for a varity of different size pullys
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:49 PM   #4
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And these are the answers I expected.....I've been to Summit and couldn't find a 6.5" tape. Have you guys got a part number? I don't.....See, I've been to other sites and this seems to be a common problem with several series of FORD engines with this same 6-1/2" damper. Now, does anyone have any real information? RooDog
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Old 04-18-2014, 10:04 PM   #5
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your being snotty but i will give the info any way,msd 8985 8 different tapes from 5.25 tp 8 inches ,less than $5.00, at summit racing
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:18 PM   #6
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your being snotty but i will give the info any way,msd 8985 8 different tapes from 5.25 tp 8 inches ,less than $5.00, at summit racing
He is looking specifically for the 6.5 tape and none of the tapes in 8985 is for the 6.5.

there does not seem to be any commercially available EXACTLY for the 6.5.

10 degrees on a 6.5" balancer is 0.567" length on that balancer
10 degrees on a 6 3/8" is 0.556" length on that balancer

We are looking at what, .0011 inches per degree difference? A human hair is about .001"
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Old 04-19-2014, 05:24 AM   #7
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If you "GOTTA" HAVE IT, take the pulley off and have a machine shop cut degree marks to 'YOUR" satisfaction.
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Old 04-19-2014, 07:55 AM   #8
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Many engines will run better when timed with a vacuum gauge. The exact degrees can vary from one engine to another. Its a trial and error thing.
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:17 AM   #9
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I'm not being "snotty", I'm looking for the correct part for my engine. I have aslo looked at MSD and MrGaskets offerings and I know that the 6.375 tape will be close enough. . Now cone on guys, would you put a .020 piston in a .030 oven bore cause it was "close enough", no, I don't think so. I've spent time looking at other sites and the lack of 6.5 tape seems to be a common problem, if you care and want to do it right. Timing with a vac gage is just another method of getting an engine to run to your satisfaction, but is beside the point. No body seems to make the correct part for our FORD engine with that size damper. Y'all didn't fail me. ya chimed in with BS opinions and no facts LOL.....Once I establish/confirm TDC with a piston stop I will then add my own marks using a degree wheel and my trusty Dremel. Timing tape would have been easier and cheeper. It's not that it can't be done, but I just wanted a product to do the job easilly and quickley........I've spent more time here that It would have taken to add my own marks, anyway....Bless your hearts....RooDog
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Thanks, Mike, you got the picture....RooDog
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Thanks, Mike, you got the picture....RooDog
Why don't you just do the math and mark it yourself ?
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:28 AM   #12
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I can do that. But the question was who has the correct tape for a 6.5 damper, nothing more and certainly nothing less. How hard is that to understand?.....I could also buy an aftermarket damper will all sorts of markings, but that is not the question: Who has tape for a 6.5 Dia damper?RooDog
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im just curious, do you have a one of a kind damper from ford? seems strange that ford would make such a weird one when so many others are available, can you have your machine shop turn your 6 1/2 damper down to 6 3/8 then you could use the 6 3/8 tape
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It would deem to me that a 6 3/8 tape would do the job - it can't be off more than one or two degrees and you can compensate for that.

Guys are trying to help and you are being ?????
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I can do that. But the question was who has the correct tape for a 6.5 damper, nothing more and certainly nothing less. How hard is that to understand?.....I could also buy an aftermarket damper will all sorts of markings, but that is not the question: Who has tape for a 6.5 Dia damper?RooDog
The correct tape is not commercially sold. I'm sure you did an internet search and saw that but thought you might try here. It appears that you may have stumbled on a money making opportunity as this question has been asked on various forums and nobody has been able to provide a source for the EXACT tape.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:15 AM   #16
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Thank you, Mike. It's is good to find an intelligent man amongst the masses.
I have done an internet search and have discovered that this is a recurring problem though not well supported. I do have in my hands a timing tape from "FORD Motorsport" (not listed in their 2000 catalog) installed on a C6OE 6.5 damper. Sorry to say but there is no part number to persue. It features the four cardinal points plus 60 degress of advance noted. I looked here to FordBarn for two reasons. The main being to find the elusive 6.5 tape, but also to see what sort if dumb shit I would get in response. The latter outweighed the former....LOL.....
And I have looked at MSD, MrGasket, Jeggs, Summit, and several other FORD specialty dealers. See, the quest is for the product item, not for getting the job done, I can mark my own damper or use the 6.375 tape efectivly, that should not be too hard to understand, but it seems to be. RooDog
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I think we understand now. Thank you.
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after 2 days of looking and calling my friends in so.cal i did find a source for the 6.5 " tape, its avaiable in very small quanties from the bracket racers, the guy lives in irwindale
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:12 PM   #19
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Hey....Thanks for the input....Got an email addy or web site? I googled "The Bracket Racers" to no avail....RooDog
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Hey....Thanks for the input....Got an email addy or web site? I googled "The Bracket Racers" to no avail....RooDog
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