Town Car Deliveries

[jkcrosson]

I know Tim Kelly and Roy Frost own the 2 pictured here, but how many more are left and where are they?

[29RPU]

I know that town cars only went part of the year in 1930 correct? so were all 1930's without rear side windows. I have only seen the 28-29 version which had the rear side windows. Just another rookie question....

[Franchise_24]

WOW, those sure are some nice cars. I'm lucky enough to have touched one as I know a member who has 1 (and 1 of about every other car made) who is in our car club LOL.

[Deluxe Delivery Don]

There was 1 Town Car Deliveries in 1930 and a total of 191 in 1931. Thats it.

[jkcrosson]

Now these are town car deliveries. These are classified as a commercial vehicle. If my memory serves me right, about 191 made mostly in 31.

Edited,
You beat me to the punch Don

[Deluxe Delivery Don]

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Originally Posted by jkcrosson

Now these are town car deliveries. These are classified as a commercial vehicle. If my memory serves me right, about 191 made mostly in 31.

Edited,
You beat me to the punch Don

Yes they were called Light Commercial Bodies.

[Roadster62]

There is a third that I know of that is under restoration here in Connecticut owner has had it for over 40 + years.

[peters180a/170b]

Then that would make 5 in the state of Conn if one is under restoration and owner had it for 40 years.[Did not know of that one] Think there's about less then a dozen .And LIGHT commercial Bodies with a VERY HIGH PRICE...L.O.L.

[Deluxe Delivery Don]

Originally Posted by peters180a/170b

Then that would make 5 in the state of Conn if one is under restoration and owner had it for 40 years.[Did not know of that one] Think there's about less then a dozen .And LIGHT commercial Bodies with a VERY HIGH PRICE...L.O.L.

Queston, If and I mean IF One was available what would one In todays Market Sell for.? $100,000.-$200,000. $300,000.or More.

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by Deluxe Delivery Don

Queston, If and I mean IF One was available what would one In todays Market Sell for.? $100,000.-$200,000. $300,000.or More.

I'll leave that to the experts...

[quickchange]

Question does the 30 town car delivery have a straight windshield ? rather than the later 31 slant screen type.

[peters180a/170b]

If i recall the 1930 has a straight windshield [that's what makes is very rare] i think 2 were made. Knowing Mr. Kelly somewhat , i am sure he has a list of every towncar delivery and parts in his head.He is not a new kid on the block in this area. As far as the price since a 1929 towcar sold for $225,000 i would say the towncar delivery would go for much more. Ron Frost towncar delivery is forsale as i know of but it comes with his whole collection and that's over 1 million bucks. So its hard to break down the price of the delivery.

[Joop]

Mr Ron Frost wants $1.2 million for his Town Car Delivery and $3.2 for the whole collection (over 20 cars) and all the parts (a lot of them)

He is a very nice Gentlemen who not long ago showed Marlies and me the whole collection.

[Deluxe Delivery Don]

This light commerical truck ad was published Oct 1930. It looks like the Windshield is Slanted.I don't think my wife would appreciate me selling off my retirement fund for a Town Car Delivery. My Deluxe Delivery will do just fine.

[peters180a/170b]

Ok , there are 2 straight windshield towncar delivery's known or not known.. to some..There is a picture of 1 on pg.182 of THE FORD MODEL "A" by Sir George De Angelis, Ed Francis [who which i met both] and Leslie Henry. quote: Officially announced in Jan, 1931 as a new body type ,BUT some 1930 bodies had been made prior to that date by BRIGGS. Yes good old Briggs was know for that. Just ask a 180A owner how many changes were made month to month sometimes.So yes there were and are straight down windshield frame Towncar deliveries. As far as 1.2 million dollars for a towncar delivery??? it would cost much less to have one made!!!! And i know the man that can do it.. I ask one day if he can make a Duzzie?? Yes,, bring me a radiator badge and a check..and yes it has been done!! I did ask the man who built a full body of a 1931 Rolls-Royce Springfield roadster who won at Pebble beach ..Old price was $225,000. for the full body less drive train.

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by Joop

Mr Ron Frost wants $1.2 million for his Town Car Delivery and $3.2 for the whole collection (over 20 cars) and all the parts (a lot of them)

He is a very nice Gentlemen who not long ago showed Marlies and me the whole collection.

Joop, I live in the same town as Roy Frost. He is a very nice guy and a gracious host the couple times I have walked through his collection. I would have loved to have met you while you were in Pell City. Does that $3.2 also include the "last Model A".

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by jkcrosson

I know Tim Kelley and Roy Frost own the 2 pictured here, but how many more are left and where are they?

FYI

Tim Kelly, just the one "E".

-Tim C (not Kelly)

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by peters180a/170b

As far as 1.2 million dollars for a towncar delivery???

Nope, not outrageous at all.

It delivers breakfast in bed to you once a week for that price.

-Tim

[jkcrosson]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

FYI

Tim Kelly, just the one "E".

-Tim C (not Kelly)

Got it. No disrespect meant to Mr Kelly. Just a typo.

[Fred]

Yes Pete, it can be done, But the radiator will have LEAKS & people will find out its not Original... As YOU know..

[Steve Ciccalone]

Timothy, probably not much different than very early '31 Fordors and Cabriolets that were also straight windshield.

[mot]

the question was asked if one could be made
YES, Larry Ibsen made one out of a slant window sedan
he built it in his basement and used photos to scale the parts
it was shown at the Nationals in seattle in 1972
I watched him build it and was facinated by his attention to detail
after he was done, by coincidence Roy Quierio moved within a few miles from him with a real one,Larry went over and compared all the details and found the roll at the rear of the body was off slightly and he redid it
the car sits in the Sacramento Towe museum

[Elcastor]

In this modern computer age I just wonder why a list can not be created, and maintained, that combines all the know Model A's into one large data base so there would be a place where a person could find the answers as jkcrosson originally asked. I know that at least one of the national clubs has a list but a data base that would be shared by all the national clubs/organizations would be a real benefit to all!

[Steve Ciccalone]

Elcastor, frankly there are many people that do not want it generally known what they have or where it is. Those who post here are obviously willing to share information. There are still a lot of people that have stuff who simply do not use the computer. Any list will always be incomplete.

[eystein]

I find $1.2M unbelievable. As far as I know, $1.2 million would easily buy you a good Packard V12 convertible.

[eystein]

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Seems like there is one in the Netherlands, even a straight windshield one. However, I haven't been to the museum myself, so I cannot in any way tell if it is an original one, or a copy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10983301@N06/4100649235/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1098330...7622672169459/

[eystein]

By the way, it seems that this museum has also got a taxicab, not a very common A either ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lookupinwonder/5241870084/

The photo doesn't let you verify that it has the distinctive coupe pillar. However the width of the rear side window suggests to me that it could be an original taxicab body.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by eystein

I find $1.2M unbelievable. As far as I know, $1.2 million would easily buy you a good Packard V12 convertible.

With all due respect, if Mr. Frost wants $1.2M for his, ...THAT is what his authentic T/C Delivery is worth to him. And to be quite honest, I am certain there are WAY more V12 Packards to be purchased than there are "real" 295A's in this world, ...so it kinda begs the question, how do you know how much it is worth if you don't have a benchmark to base the value off of? It might also be worth noting that Joop stated that $1.2M is how much Mr. Frost perceives the car's value is to himself, not necessarily to a Buyer.

This also begs the question on the perceived value of the surviving stainless steel 55B Tudor Sedan.

[FL&WVMIKE]

I would say that Mr. Frost priced his Town Car Delivery at $1,200.000.00 to discourage people from trying to buy it. But, if someone wanted to give him that much, he would take it.
I'm sure that it would be a different story, IF he was really trying to sell it.
MIKE

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by eystein

By the way, it seems that this museum has also got a taxicab, not a very common A either ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lookupinwonder/5241870084/

The photo doesn't let you verify that it has the distinctive coupe pillar. However the width of the rear side window suggests to me that it could be an original taxicab body.

It also has the third hinge on the rear door which was unique to the Taxicabs (another fact I learned from TK).

-Tim


edited to add; This picture shows the coupe pillar http://www.flickr.com/photos/1098330...7622672169459/

[jkcrosson]

From my conversations with him, I don't think Mr Frost is in a real hurry to sell the TCD or the collection. If it sells for that price it would be fine though.

[Joop]

You are right Tim

I was just there in May.

[eystein]

Sad to hear that it is not original. I would still love to see the museum though.

[ronn]

I think at 1.2 mill- I'll opt for a Duesy!

[Joop]

Hi Eystein

You got to visit as they have a lot of Model A's as well as earlier and later Ford's.

[peters180a/170b]

Ronn , i am with you on the DUESY > Nothing tops a well restored J conv. Nothing! Except if you are into BRASS then a LG THOMAS FLYER. And all i need is 6 straight lucky numbers and then the list goes on...L.O.L.

[Roadster62]

I totally agree, the Town Car Delivery I mentioned in an above post has been owned for 40+ years by the same guy, I wouldn't mention his name, nor would I mention others without their permission. "Lists" can fall into the wrong hands very easily. Bob

Originally Posted by Steve Ciccalone

Elcastor, frankly there are many people that do not want it generally known what they have or where it is. Those who post here are obviously willing to share information. There are still a lot of people that have stuff who simply do not use the computer. Any list will always be incomplete.

[Tinbasher]

There's suppose to be one of these in Cornwall, Ont. Canada. It was used by a florists in the 30's. But I can't track it down. Does anyone know anything about this Town Car Delivery?

The Old Tinbasher

[Brad in Germany]

By the way, the "Town Car Delivery" in the Den Hartogh Ford Museum (The Netherlands) is for sale. Their asking price is 27,000 Euro which is about $30,207 US dollars. Here is the link to the For Sale ad on the museum's home page.

Below are some photos of the Town Car Delivery provided by the museum:











I was just at the museum last weekend checking up on a Model A that I have in storage there. PM me if you are interested in the TCD and I can put you in contact with the museum curator.

Fordially,
Brad in Maryland

[jimalabam]

For the ones who might not know, Roy Frost died recently. He has a son, and what will become of that fabulous collection is unknown as of today. BTW that last Model A Shooting Break built for Henry ll in 1945, is on loan to the MAFFI Model A Museum in Hickory Corners.

[Arlyn Bieber]

So how many points would this 1.2MM TCD score in Blue Ribbon judging at a MARC or MAFCA National Meet? For that money it better be 495+. Just a thought!

[foxfire42]

On the Germany car I don't have a sharp eye nor even seen a TCD in real time but a 5 second glance you can quickly pick up on issues. No matter how much is spent to correct everything you'll still have a Faux TCD. Where would you EVER find a set of sidelights to replace the grab handles? The exterior door handles are probably the only thing that would be easy to fix and that's just the beginning.

It would be an extensive adventure to put it back to the Deluxe Delivery it started out as. It looks like the rear of the body was shortened. Most of the world drive on the right side of the road so why would the rear door open from the left?

[Joop]

Very good question about the door

[Brad in Germany]

If anyone might be interested, the Town Car Delivery recreation that used to be in the Den Hartogh Ford Museum, NL is again for sale through a local Dutch car dealer (click on the photo below for more details and photos):



If you are wondering about the price history of this car:

The above dealer is currently offering it for sale for 23,500 Euro ($26,685)

Previously it sold at the Bonhams Auction of the Den Hartogh Ford Museum in June 2018 for $16,986 incl commission.

Prior to that it was offered for sale through the Den Hartogh Ford Museum, NL for 27,000 Euro ($30,207) but did not sell.

Prior to that it was offered for sale at a local auction (BVA Auctions, NL) in September 2014, but at 13,800 Euro ($15,675) failed to meet the reserve.

Brad in Maryland

[Tudortomnz]

This Dutch TCD looks to be made from a '31 Tudor ; the original straight windscreen TDC in 'Model A as Henry Built It' has door swaging like the coach built Briggs & Murray Fordors plus the rear quarter & back panels are shaped differently, tailamp was commercial low mounted, full length rear bumper etc. on the original.
Re rear door hinged on 'wrong'side, Brad in Germany years ago put up some original Commercial Tudor [ Tudor with rear door sold in some markets] pics taken in Germany with the door hinged as this replica TCD, although Germany is a LHD country. [Maybe the kit to put in the door originated in Britain which supplied most of Ford European plants.] cheers- Tom in NZ.

[jimalabam]

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Roy Frost of Pell City, AL has been deceased for some time. His son sold the Town Car Delivery but I do not know who or where the new owner is located...

[Synchro909]

There was a TCD at the Reno rally last year. I heard it was bought for about $US300K not long before. It is not one of those pictured here so far. I was fascinated by it, having never seen one before.

[Joop]

Tucson, AZ MAFCA membership meet Dec. 2018
Owner Barbara Birt.

...

[foxfire42]

Very interesting how rumors start..............and they are not always correct.


Barb Birt

[P.S.]

There are two 1931 town car deliveries in this video, including the one pictured above that belonged to the late Tim Kelly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_hNBCUKcP4

[Chuck Sea/Tac]

Hey Barb, wondered when your name would come up.
Chuck Nordstrom

[jimalabam]

Roy Frost is deceased some time ago. Pieces of the collection were sold off including the Town Car Delivery, but to whom ???

[Oldbluoval]

There are several originals and some that have been cloned
I don’t know who has what in that arena and really unconcerned ifthere are clones.
This was told to me by the late Tim Kelly
This pertains to the slants not the others

[ronn]

sure Barb........

[Joop]

FYI

Doug Clayton in CA has 2 in his collection
The GE blue one and a two tone green one

[Roadster62]

Looks like the Clayton collection has both of the Tim Kelly Town Car deliveries, I saw the black one two years ago at the Cider Mill meet in Shelton. Are the deluxe pick up and Special Delivery also former Tim Kelly vehicles? Bob

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by Roadster62

Are the deluxe pick up and Special Delivery also former Tim Kelly vehicles? Bob

Yes

[Roadster62]

Thank you WTSHNN, that Special Delivery was from the Swigert Collection if anyone is keeping track of those things. It is a nice untouched vehicle, I found the remains of one at the Town Dump back in the 1960's. Sold the drivers door window regulator about 5 years ago to someone that never dreamed of finding one. Bob

[Tinbasher]

So back to the question. It looks like 4 are still known of.

[nikname]

Originally Posted by Roadster62

Looks like the Clayton collection has both of the Tim Kelly Town Car deliveries, I saw the black one two years ago at the Cider Mill meet in Shelton. Are the deluxe pick up and Special Delivery also former Tim Kelly vehicles? Bob

Bob,

The black 1930 TCD I brought to the Cider Mill in Shelton is not part of the Doug Clayton collection.

Cheers,

Jeff

[Cape Codder]

I had the privilege of seeing Tim Kellys Tow Car Delivery at a New England meet several years ago. What I saw was a sliding door between the driver and the rear compartment. Also his had only one seat in the drivers compartment. Are these two different models of a TCD?

[nikname]

To the best of my knowledge, all TCDs have a partition between the driver and the rear compartment with a sliding door, as well as a single seat for the driver.

[Joop]

.
As you have one Jeff could you post some pictures. Thanks

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by Cape Codder

Are these two different models of a TCD?

Technically yes; the '30 straight windshield and the '31 slant windshield but the interiors were the same.

Like Jeff said; a sliding door separating cockpit and cargo area as well as a single driver's seat.

The red car posted earlier in this thread is a tribute vehicle with many inaccurate details; including the dual front seats and the stationary partition. It is the unfortunate side effect of creating an interpretation of an actual production vehicle; people see it and think that is how an original is.

-Tim

[Roadster62]

Originally Posted by nikname

Bob,

The black 1930 TCD I brought to the Cider Mill in Shelton is not part of the Doug Clayton collection.

Cheers,

Jeff

Great news, still parked with the Model K? Bob

[eystein]

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The "Ford Model A as Henry Built It" book states that the town car delivery had an all aluminum body.

I would assume that applies only to the package compartment, and that the front doors and cowl are modified from slant windshield Town Sedans and consequently are made out of steel.

Can anybody confirm/clarify ?

What about the subframe of the TCD ? Is it wood, steel or aluminum ?

[duke36]

How many '30 deluxe deliveries (bottom left) were produced ?

[jimalabam]

Roy Frost has been deceased for some, and his son was in charge of selling of Roy's collection. I don't know what has become pf Roy's TCD, if anything...

[Brad in Germany]

The "tribute" 1931 Ford Model A Town Car Delivery that was in the Den Hartogh Ford Museum, The Netherlands is again for sale online. It just popped up on Pre-War Cars:


https://www.prewarcar.com/323749-for...-delivery-1931



This "tribute" Town Car Delivery has been bouncing around the internet for the last several years:

It was a no-sale in the first Den Hartogh Ford museum auction (September 2014) for 13,800 Euro (https://www.bva-auctions.com/en/auct.../4319146?pid=0) .

It was then offered for sale at the Bonhams Den Hartogh Ford Museum auction (June 2018) and sold for 14,950 Euro (https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25077/lot/103/).

It then popped up for sale again in at www.kenniscars.nl (in January 2019) for 23,500 Euro (https://www.kenniscars.nl/3084606/2149/)

... and now is listed for sale by Juri Castricum Collector Cars (April 2021) on www.Prewrcars.com (https://www.prewarcar.com/323749-for...-delivery-1931) with an asking price of again 23,500 Euro.

Brad in Maryland

[mercman from oz]

These Model A Ford Town Car Deliveries are certainly great looking old Fords.

[Oldbluoval]

“The tribute Town Car Delivery......”
I get a charge out of this term especially on B-J auctions. Often used on converted GTO etc
To me it equates to fake, knock-off, etc.
However as long as identified as such there’s no ruse or deception one can enjoy as they see fit!

[eystein]

Anyone in the know of Town Car Deliveries that could answer my question ?

The "Ford Model A as Henry Built It" book states that the town car delivery had an all aluminum body.

I would assume that applies only to the package compartment, and that the front doors and cowl are modified from slant windshield Town Sedans and consequently are made out of steel.

Can anybody confirm/clarify ?

What about the subframe of the TCD ? Is it wood, steel or aluminum ?

[Oldbluoval]

I was involved with one a
Long time ago
Yes the doors and cowl are same as slants but there are differences. The header is different from cabby and a400
The rear section is aluminum and the sills are wooden much like the deluxe delivery.
They are one of a kind with lots of similarities. I do not remember if the rear door skin was aluminum or not
Dan Shady in Huntsville did Roy Frosts and had a multitude of pics at one time. His son Deron Is on here occasionally

[Brad in Germany]

Originally Posted by eystein

Anyone in the know of Town Car Deliveries that could answer my question ?

The "Ford Model A as Henry Built It" book states that the town car delivery had an all aluminum body.

I would assume that applies only to the package compartment, and that the front doors and cowl are modified from slant windshield Town Sedans and consequently are made out of steel.

Can anybody confirm/clarify ?

What about the subframe of the TCD ? Is it wood, steel or aluminum ?

.....here, this might help:



Brad in Maryland

[eystein]

Originally Posted by Brad in Germany

.....here, this might help:



Brad in Maryland

Brad,

Thanks for replying, but I think that you have forgotten a link or an attachment.

Eystein

[eystein]

One thing that puzzles me when I look at the rear body of the TCD, is that the metal appears to be one continuous sheet metal stamping all the way around the rear body from door to door. I believe that the roof of the rear compartment is a wire mesh/long-short grain covering construction.
Still, it cannot be possible that all the sheet metal around the car is one piece. The deluxe deliveries and the sedans were made in separate pieces bolted together at the rear. I cannot find such construction on the TCD.

Was all the TCD rear body sheet aluminum welded together during assembly?

[Oldbluoval]

The rear body shell came apart at the belt line
However that leaves a lot of forming for those panels and the rear section adjoining thereto

[eystein]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

The rear body shell came apart at the belt line
However that leaves a lot of forming for those panels and the rear section adjoining thereto

Thanks, that makes sense, and seems to correspond to what is in the body parts list (see lines highlighted in photo) However, there is no mention of a Left-hand vs Right-hand part.

It seems next to unbelievable that both the upper part and the lower part are continuous stampings all around the car. One would have expected to see a vertical seam at the back. Was there a weld seam somewhere at the back of the car ?

[Oldbluoval]

Actually don’t remember but I’m sure it was fused in several places. Aluminum can be soldered or leaded together as well. Im not sure of aluminum technology that far back. MiG/tig not invented but there was OA and I’ve seen wonders with torches!

I wish Dan or Deron Shady would post in as Dan has a bunch of original pics

[eystein]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

Actually don’t remember but I’m sure it was fused in several places. Aluminum can be soldered or leaded together as well. Im not sure of aluminum technology that far back. MiG/tig not invented but there was OA and I’ve seen wonders with torches!

I wish Dan or Deron Shady would post in as Dan has a bunch of original pics

I actually sent him a PM to alert him about the discussion here, however his last Fordbarn post was in 2018 and on VFF , in 2019, so chances that he will pick it up are probably small

[jb-ob]

eystein,

Understand that all 197 1931 Town Car bodies where custom hand made by Briggs body company for Ford. Nearly none of the wood frame work or body aluminum skins would fit a different body. From a pile of original body skins, the height from the belt rail to the crown of the roof varied by as much as a full 1".

While unique for a Ford Company to offer a 'custom' built body, it was very common with higher end body builders of that era.
The 1929 Ford Town Car sold well up to the stock market crash of October 1929. The 1931 Town Car Delivery was a sales flop, most being sold, deeply discounted in 1932.

As for replacement body parts, they probably sold with the idea 'trim to fit'.

jb

[eystein]

Originally Posted by jb-ob

eystein,

Understand that all 197 1931 Town Car bodies where custom hand made by Briggs body company for Ford. Nearly none of the wood frame work or body aluminum skins would fit a different body. From a pile of original body skins, the height from the belt rail to the crown of the roof varied by as much as a full 1".

While unique for a Ford Company to offer a 'custom' built body, it was very common with higher end body builders of that era.
The 1929 Ford Town Car sold well up to the stock market crash of October 1929. The 1931 Town Car Delivery was a sales flop, most being sold, deeply discounted in 1932.

As for replacement body parts, they probably sold with the idea 'trim to fit'.

jb

JB,

Seems that you are in possession of detailed information on the production of these bodies at the Briggs plant.

Please post some of this material here for information.

While very few of us have or will ever have a TCD, that is exactly what makes educating oneself on the subject interesting. While Phaetons and Roadsters are nice cars, if I want to know any details about them, there is always a guy living a couple of miles from me who I can phone up and ask to come and see his car. Not so with the TCD.

[jb-ob]

Nope, I'm not old enough to have seen what took place under the roof at Briggs Body Company.

I have been very fortunate to have been involved with the restoration of four TCD's and possibly a fifth. Just being in the right place at the right time with some experience to lend.

jb

[WTSHNN]

I remember when Mr K was working to restore his TCD's there were discussions back and forth with the restoration company who was accustomed to doing high end cars for so-called "French Judging" whereas he wanted to preserve the vehicles as built; warts and all.

One area I remember was the opening between the driver's compartment and the rear cargo area. The radius on all four corners differed. The shop wanted to make them all the same. Tim, always the preservationist, said to leave it as it was.

[eystein]

Like the term "French Judging", that makes me laugh. Really, there is no more beauty than when you can see that something is brought back to exacly the way it was. There is an own beauty in the functionality of an original quality industrial product.

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

I remember when Mr K was working to restore his TCD's there were discussions back and forth with the restoration company who was accustomed to doing high end cars for so-called "French Judging" whereas he wanted to preserve the vehicles as built; warts and all.

One area I remember was the opening between the driver's compartment and the rear cargo area. The radius on all four corners differed. The shop wanted to make them all the same. Tim, always the preservationist, said to leave it as it was.

[eystein]

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Originally Posted by nikname

Bob,

The black 1930 TCD I brought to the Cider Mill in Shelton is not part of the Doug Clayton collection.

Cheers,

Jeff

Is the above quote a typo, or does there actually exist a 1930 (straight windshield ) town car delivery ?

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by eystein

Is the above quote a typo, or does there actually exist a 1930 (straight windshield ) town car delivery ?

Yes, a straight windshield '30 TCD exists.

It was exhibited at the 2018 Model A Day at the MAFFI Museum.

[eystein]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

Yes, a straight windshield '30 TCD exists.

It was exhibited at the 2018 Model A Day at the MAFFI Museum.

Any photos from that event showing the car ?

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by eystein

Any photos from that event showing the car ?

Here is something that came up when I did a search on this forum.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ighlight=maffi

[Brad in Germany]

Originally Posted by eystein

Any photos from that event showing the car ?

Brad in Maryland

[eystein]

Originally Posted by Brad in Germany

Brad in Maryland

Thanks a lot Brad,

Somehow I always seem to have heard that no 1930 TCDs were known to have survived. Was this car discovered only in later years ?

[Oldbluoval]

They’ve been around Tim Kelley had one 25-30 years ago

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by eystein

Thanks a lot Brad,

Somehow I always seem to have heard that no 1930 TCDs were known to have survived. Was this car discovered only in later years ?

Cars of all makes and models that have long been thought extinct have turned up over the years.

[ModelA29]

Both of Doug Clayton's are shown here - 31 slant windshields.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_hNBCUKcP4