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Old 07-23-2016, 06:03 PM   #41
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Congratulations on a awesome task. Know there are many out there that would like a new block to start a engine build.
Thanks. I hope I can help many with a stock-ish engine that has pressurized oiling throughout.

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Old 07-23-2016, 10:48 PM   #42
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Wow! Where have I been? I guess I've been sniffing too many Babbitt fumes tearing 5 old blocks apart to get one good one. I am an engine builder and just found out about this today from waxhead in Australia.... I would like to get in line for one asap. I have a 170 HP Miller build for my roadster going and could put one of these to the test. I know these will sell especially when you get the iron one going.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:29 PM   #43
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I just sent this message to Steve Hackel about the build.

"Steve, there is nothing special about the build. Snyder's 6:1 head, .060 over pistons, Babbitt mains, and my own pressurized oiling design. When it get up to running temp the pressure drops to a steady 30 lbs. But the front cam journal wasn't perfect so there was probably more pressure to be had with a perfect bore. It is a stock oil pump. I have plans to add bosses inside the valve cover chamber for a pressure relief valve and for a plumbing option for a full pressure oil filter like the one Snyder sells right now. Things will only get better from here.

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Just a note: The oil filter that Snyder's sells will not work with your new cast iron header. I opted for a remote filter system that works great with your header.
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Old 07-24-2016, 06:35 AM   #44
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Just a note: The oil filter that Snyder's sells will not work with your new cast iron header. I opted for a remote filter system that works great with your header.
So maybe a different design would be in order to go with that. Snyder has the other one that is part of the side front cover. I haven't looked to see if that works.

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Old 07-24-2016, 06:41 AM   #45
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Congratulations on a awesome task. Know there are many out there that would like a new block to start a engine build.
What will be the cost delivered to the customer? Wayne
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:27 AM   #46
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Wow! Where have I been? I guess I've been sniffing too many Babbitt fumes tearing 5 old blocks apart to get one good one. I am an engine builder and just found out about this today from waxhead in Australia.... I would like to get in line for one asap. I have a 170 HP Miller build for my roadster going and could put one of these to the test. I know these will sell especially when you get the iron one going.
I wonder how many more builders are out there that haven't heard yet.

I have 3 iron castings to make and one aluminum. As the word gets out and this gains momentum I hope there will be sales enough to make it all worth the effort.

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Old 07-24-2016, 07:38 AM   #47
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I wonder how many more builders are out there that haven't heard yet.

I have 3 iron castings to make and one aluminum. As the word gets out and this gains momentum I hope there will be sales enough to make it all worth the effort.

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The price ? Wayne
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:46 AM   #48
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I think this project will be well worth the effort Tod. I know Turlockmachine, did an article on them. They have built several engines for the folks that have traveled with me and they are holding up well. Probably be a good customer for you on the west coast. I know Scotty and you have been in contact and he will be stopping in soon, looking forward to putting an article in the Model A Times with pictures and video of your running engine!
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:59 AM   #49
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I think this project will be well worth the effort Tod. I know Turlockmachine, did an article on them. They have built several engines for the folks that have traveled with me and they are holding up well. Probably be a good customer for you on the west coast. I know Scotty and you have been in contact and he will be stopping in soon, looking forward to putting an article in the Model A Times with pictures and video of your running engine!
I sure hope so, John. I appreciate all the support from people like you. I don't expect to get rich from this but it would be nice to have it support some travelling with my wife around various parts of the country to visit shows and chat with folks and hear the history that is plentiful surrounding the hobby.

Looking forward to working with reputable dealers and hearing their input. Also, we have the engine still in place waiting for Scotty. Sorry, but my shop is still a mess.

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Old 07-24-2016, 08:32 AM   #50
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Don't worry about the mess you should see my shop! LOL If you want to introduce your block to the west coast, I have an inside booth at the Turlock, CA swap meet it is put on by the local Model A club and is one of the largest swapmeets on the West Coast, the last week end of January. You can set up a display block and talk to lots of Model A folks that weekend. If you think it would be something you would be interested in Scotty could haul some stuff back for you saving the shipping.
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Old 07-24-2016, 09:05 AM   #51
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Mine is one of the Genesis versions, I think they were cast in Indianapolis right? I met you back around 2001 at the all Ford show in Columbus I think. Glad to see you are making Model A blocks. How about making a 5 main Model T block in your spare time?


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Good to hear from you Royce. Do you have one of my Genesis versions or the Pond version?

I'm hoping these will be better yet.

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Old 07-24-2016, 09:21 AM   #52
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Mine is one of the Genesis versions, I think they were cast in Indianapolis right? I met you back around 2001 at the all Ford show in Columbus I think. Glad to see you are making Model A blocks. How about making a 5 main Model T block in your spare time?
The Genesis blocks were first cast in Indy, then Columbus, Indiana, and then I was pushed out of the way after they went belly-up and were bought out. I don't know where they went after that. That's when I teamed up with Pond to do our own.

I hear there is no market for T blocks. The "spare time" part made me laugh out loud. Thanks. Always good to keep in touch with guys from past projects. Hope all is well.

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Old 07-27-2016, 11:06 AM   #53
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I picked up the first aluminum block yesterday at the foundry after heat treat. I will start pecking away at that one while I am getting ready to cast the first aluminum 5 main block.

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Old 07-27-2016, 12:23 PM   #54
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Tod, efforts like what you are doing with this block project, will ensure the future of the Model A hobby for a long long time.

Thanks too much as Charlie Chan would say
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Sounds great to me! Any cost estimates when they are put into production?
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:12 PM   #56
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Sounds great to me! Any cost estimates when they are put into production?
Iron or aluminum?

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Old 07-28-2016, 06:44 AM   #57
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What great undertaking. Wow, well done. This should help a lot of people.

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