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JimK1930A · 12-07-2016, 06:32 PM

Hi all,
I am in the market for a new 2 blade fan offered in the Model A supply catalogs.
I see that Bratton's offers one for $50.40 and Mikes is $48.95, and Snyder's is $47.95 each.
Snyder's states that theirs is balanced in the description, but the others do not.
Are all the 2 blade fans for sale made by the same manufacturer?
Thank you in advance!
Jim in Minneapolis

Mitch//pa · 12-07-2016, 06:56 PM

Yes it seems they are made by one place

C26Pinelake · 12-07-2016, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Yes it seems they are made by one place

There is no way of knowing if they are all made by the same company by looking at the pictures. Other than contacting vendors it is an uneducated guess at best! Wayne

Terry, NJ · 12-08-2016, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Yes it seems they are made by one place

Yes but, I checked the two I have and both were out of balance, one was quite a bit. I doubt this will have much effect, but it will increase vibrations somewhat. I wouldn't put one on with at least checking.
Terry

Mitch//pa · 12-08-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry, NJ

Yes but, I checked the two I have and both were out of balance, one was quite a bit. I doubt this will have much effect, but it will increase vibrations somewhat. I wouldn't put one on with at least checking.
Terry

Are your fans newer? Or purchased from some flea market table selling old stock...

Terry, NJ · 12-09-2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Are your fans newer? Or purchased from some flea market table selling old stock...

One I found at the bottom of a creek, very few pits, great shape! The other I found in a scrap yard, One blade was just sticking out from a pile! It was a little bent but I put it in the vice and squeezed it and banged it back with a big hammer, Works great! LOL
Seriously, One was bought at a swap meet and the other was was purchased from Snyders two years ago.
Terry

iverson · 12-07-2016, 07:20 PM

I have not put on the one I just got from snyder's yet but it sure looks very good

DaWizard · 12-07-2016, 07:39 PM

And what is wrong with a 4 blade?

Mitch//pa · 12-07-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWizard

And what is wrong with a 4 blade?

https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread...ight=blade+fan

JimK1930A · 12-07-2016, 08:12 PM

Nothing is wrong with a 4 blade, but my question is about the two blade.

C26Pinelake · 12-07-2016, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimK1930A

Nothing is wrong with a 4 blade, but my question is about the two blade.

Your statement is not correct. Do a search and you will change your mind. Wayne

tbirdtbird · 12-07-2016, 07:42 PM

everything.
try a search here

Drive Shaft Dave · 12-07-2016, 07:46 PM

I believe the aluminum fans are made by Synder's.

tbirdtbird · 12-07-2016, 08:15 PM

yes there is,
if you like your hood, radiator, and more especially your head and neck

i wish ppl would keep up......

DaWizard · 12-07-2016, 08:22 PM

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread.

tbirdtbird · 12-07-2016, 08:33 PM

time to add to your signature,
"never pass up a two blade fan"

Larry Jenkins · 12-07-2016, 08:46 PM

Weren't there two types of four bladed fans? I have what I was told is a Henry original with an extra set of rivets around the hub..

Maybe snake oil..

DougVieyra · 12-07-2016, 09:45 PM

DaWizard: "What is wrong with a 4 blade?"
-------------------------------------------

The 4-blade fans weigh more than the two blade fans. The extra weight of the 4-blade fan adds extra weight and wear on the shaft of the water pump. Additionally the rivets on the four-blade fan are one more possibility (some say problem) of fan failure.

Some Model A 'technical junkies' have performed tests that suggest that the 4-blade fan produces no more cooling than the stock two-blade fan, and that the two-blade fan is 100% efficient in cooling the Model A engine.

Of course, not everyone agrees with everything; and such is the case in the 4-blade verses 2-blade controversy. You WILL hear 'testimonials' about how much more efficient the 4-blade fan is to the 2-blade fan. But I prefer to defer to both the Ford Motor Company and the 'laboratory' tests that were done by later mechanical engineers who drove Ford Model A's.

That being said, while my stock '28 Phaeton has a Ford-Made two-blade fan (with an inch trimmed off each end, to reduce both weight and centrifugal 'G' force), for my '31 Coupe that has a 'souped up' Touring Engine, I have a six bladed plastic fan with aluminum hub - which some say is sort of a 'belt & suspenders' approach to cooling.

I do have a modern well-made aluminum 2-blade fan on the shelf, just in case I ever need to replace my existing original 2-blade fan.

For me the bottom line after achieving adequate cooling, is reducing weight and stress on shaft of my water pump.

Tom Wesenberg · 12-07-2016, 09:39 PM

2 blade aluminum...........no welds, no rivets, no bolts, and no sandwich of 2 layers.

tbirdtbird · 12-07-2016, 10:17 PM

you would think that the idea of a blade being slung off a 4-blade fan, no matter how many rivets, layers, etc, would scare the crap out of everyone on this forum, but what do I know.

must be the same ppl that try to outrun the train at a grade crossing

12-07-2016, 06:32 PM	#1
JimK1930A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 178	Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Hi all, I am in the market for a new 2 blade fan offered in the Model A supply catalogs. I see that Bratton's offers one for $50.40 and Mikes is $48.95, and Snyder's is $47.95 each. Snyder's states that theirs is balanced in the description, but the others do not. Are all the 2 blade fans for sale made by the same manufacturer? Thank you in advance! Jim in Minneapolis

12-07-2016, 06:56 PM	#2
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Yes it seems they are made by one place

12-07-2016, 07:20 PM	#7
iverson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: freeport il Posts: 316	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? I have not put on the one I just got from snyder's yet but it sure looks very good

12-07-2016, 07:39 PM	#8
DaWizard BANNED Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Dizzyland Ca Posts: 332	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? And what is wrong with a 4 blade? __________________ New owner of '28 Tudor Previously owned; '30 Sport Coupe '28 left brake ccPickup '31 SW Town Sedan '28 AA Stake Bed '30 Cabriolet '42 Super Deluxe 4door Sedan "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer. If it breaks...... ya needed a new one anyway!!" Doing a good job here is like wetting your pants in a dark suit. It gives you a warm feeling, but nobody notices. Never pass up a bathroom Never neglect an erection Never trust a fart

12-07-2016, 08:12 PM	#10
JimK1930A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 178	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Nothing is wrong with a 4 blade, but my question is about the two blade.

12-07-2016, 07:42 PM	#12
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? everything. try a search here __________________ '31 180A

12-07-2016, 07:46 PM	#13
Drive Shaft Dave Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New hope Minnesota Posts: 742	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? I believe the aluminum fans are made by Synder's.

12-07-2016, 08:15 PM	#14
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? yes there is, if you like your hood, radiator, and more especially your head and neck i wish ppl would keep up...... __________________ '31 180A

12-07-2016, 08:22 PM	#15
DaWizard BANNED Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Dizzyland Ca Posts: 332	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread. __________________ New owner of '28 Tudor Previously owned; '30 Sport Coupe '28 left brake ccPickup '31 SW Town Sedan '28 AA Stake Bed '30 Cabriolet '42 Super Deluxe 4door Sedan "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer. If it breaks...... ya needed a new one anyway!!" Doing a good job here is like wetting your pants in a dark suit. It gives you a warm feeling, but nobody notices. Never pass up a bathroom Never neglect an erection Never trust a fart

12-07-2016, 08:33 PM	#16
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? time to add to your signature, "never pass up a two blade fan" __________________ '31 180A

12-07-2016, 08:46 PM	#17
Larry Jenkins BANNED Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: East Central Iowa Posts: 1,275	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Weren't there two types of four bladed fans? I have what I was told is a Henry original with an extra set of rivets around the hub.. Maybe snake oil.. __________________ Good enough.. Isn't.

12-07-2016, 09:45 PM	#18
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? DaWizard: "What is wrong with a 4 blade?" ------------------------------------------- The 4-blade fans weigh more than the two blade fans. The extra weight of the 4-blade fan adds extra weight and wear on the shaft of the water pump. Additionally the rivets on the four-blade fan are one more possibility (some say problem) of fan failure. Some Model A 'technical junkies' have performed tests that suggest that the 4-blade fan produces no more cooling than the stock two-blade fan, and that the two-blade fan is 100% efficient in cooling the Model A engine. Of course, not everyone agrees with everything; and such is the case in the 4-blade verses 2-blade controversy. You WILL hear 'testimonials' about how much more efficient the 4-blade fan is to the 2-blade fan. But I prefer to defer to both the Ford Motor Company and the 'laboratory' tests that were done by later mechanical engineers who drove Ford Model A's. That being said, while my stock '28 Phaeton has a Ford-Made two-blade fan (with an inch trimmed off each end, to reduce both weight and centrifugal 'G' force), for my '31 Coupe that has a 'souped up' Touring Engine, I have a six bladed plastic fan with aluminum hub - which some say is sort of a 'belt & suspenders' approach to cooling. I do have a modern well-made aluminum 2-blade fan on the shelf, just in case I ever need to replace my existing original 2-blade fan. For me the bottom line after achieving adequate cooling, is reducing weight and stress on shaft of my water pump.

12-07-2016, 09:39 PM	#19
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? 2 blade aluminum...........no welds, no rivets, no bolts, and no sandwich of 2 layers.

12-07-2016, 10:17 PM	#20
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? you would think that the idea of a blade being slung off a 4-blade fan, no matter how many rivets, layers, etc, would scare the crap out of everyone on this forum, but what do I know. must be the same ppl that try to outrun the train at a grade crossing __________________ '31 180A Last edited by tbirdtbird; 12-07-2016 at 10:22 PM.