Black Model A Fords

[NCDave]

Photo thread requested

If you all would please accommodate my request here, I'd like to see a thread devoted primarily to "Black Model A Fords", I searched the forum but did not find such a thread, although there are interesting discussions on black as a primary color. EDIT: Apologies if I have created a duplicate thread; if so, please point me to it.

I posted previously about my 30 Tudor and plans to get it back on the road as a local driver, but not a show car. I am planning to go with black paint, black wheels, and blackwall tires and keep it as original as practical. The wheels have been painted black since my original post here, and the car is now running fine. My hope was to re-use the old Allstate nylon tires, but examination of them after removal from the wheels has revealed too much rot; so looking at the new Goodyears now.

My local painter says he likes DuPont paints but has no experience with Model A's, so I am particularly interested in results using that brand of black paint for a Model A. Thanks for any participation here---Tudors, Coupes, Pickups, anything black!

Thanks,

David

[NCDave]

Originally Posted by 1930 coupe

Is this what you are looking for?

Absolutely! Beautiful car. Thank you.

[John Duden]

I have been painting my E28 truck the last few months. I have used implement paint straight from the John Deere Dealer. It cost 7 bucks a quart, and you can spray it on heavy to kind of hide some waves in panels, and if it gets scratched it can be buffed out. She is really turning out fine!!

[NCDave]

Johh, thanks. I have recently used John Deere dealer paints on my 1957 420 tractor. I think they are great, and the gloss black has also been used on some of my small Model A parts. From the tractor forums I read, the genuine JD dealer-sold paints (Valspar?) are better than the hardware store stuff sold as JD colors.

[newshirt]

These threads on black Model A's may be helpful.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29211
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140667
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=134981

[Mike V. Florida]

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I would worry about a painter that says he knows nothing about painting model a's. Did he say why he thinks this car is different then any other car he has painted?

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by newshirt

These threads on black Model A's may be helpful.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29211
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140667
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=134981

There are more;

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24206
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42871

And others that I did not feel like posting.

[therupperts]

My pickup was black when I bought it. Wouldn't change it! Understand that the 29 closed cab pickup had a black paint option when new.

[NCDave]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

I would worry about a painter that says he knows nothing about painting model a's. Did he say why he thinks this car is different then any other car he has painted?

Please don't over-think me on this statement. I merely meant he had never painted one, and was not into the minutia of the history of the Model A as we are on this board. FYI, another friend of mine who previously worked in a paint and body shop has been prepping the car, removing dents, and priming it at his garage. Final paint will be done at the painter's shop here in my small town.

[NCDave]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

There are more;

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24206
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42871

And others that I did not feel like posting.

Thank you both for the links. I have seen almost all of them in my searches, and gleaned info from them. To clarify, my idea here was a photo thread of exclusively black cars, as I just thought that would be interesting. Open to any constructive criticism.

[Pete]

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[bart78]

[bart78]

I think probably the best deal with paint. Is tcp global. I've seen nothing but good about them.

[Barber31]

I'm glad you started this thread as I am planning on going black as well and I have started bodywork also. I do all my own prep and paint so I'm trying to get everything as straight as possible. Black will show every wave and ding. I wanted to post on here a few questions I had last night while sanding the passenger door but sometimes I feel some questions might be bothersome compared to more technical questions posted here. Well, since the subject has been raised I suppose I will ask now on a seperate thread. Anyhow, what are everyone's thoughts on the sheen of black to be used inside the cab? I know a gloss black was prably used but I can't picture the paint on these cars brand new looking as shiny as the new cars nowadays. To see what it looked like I sprayed my gas tank and dash area semi gloss black and it came out perfect to what I would think would be a authentic paint sheen for a new model A. I know it comes down to preference but how do y'all feel about it? More of an original look or just fancy shiny black all the way? The other problem I will be facing after paint is to leave the orange peel or sand smooth and buff out. I will try and and lay the paint as smooth as possible but I know I will be facing the same question, did model A's off the assembly line have mirror smooth paint jobs or just as smooth as they could get with the guns and buffing. Authentic looking or fancy wancy restoration. Decisions decisions.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by bart78

I like black Model A's and that coupe is a great example. For me a good black has a blue hue in it, otherwise the black color seems a little muddy. This car is a good example of black.

Neal

[Bruce Adams]

Interesting thread.
Anyone have an idea of the percentage of Model "A" Fords originally painted ALL BLACK?
(Not special orders?)

[MAG]

""I will try and and lay the paint as smooth as possible but I know I will be facing the same question, did model A's off the assembly line have mirror smooth paint jobs or just as smooth as they could get with the guns and buffing.""


Please acquire a copy of the Model A Ford Painting Guide. There is tons of information on how the cars were painted. The bodies were painted with Nitrocelus (sp) Lacquer. They were buffed to a mirror finish. Some of the parts vendors catalogs have pictures of the cars on the assembly line that bear this out.
None the less, you should paint your car as you think it should look.

[NCDave]

I'm hitting the "LIKE" button on all the photos so far posted! Thanks! Hope to see more.

[gz]

I love all black Model As too. Here is one that someone can own......see your local Ford Barn Classifieds!!

[crock]

Originally Posted by NCDave

Photo thread requested

If you all would please accommodate my request here, I'd like to see a thread devoted primarily to "Black Model A Fords", I searched the forum but did not find such a thread, although there are interesting discussions on black as a primary color. EDIT: Apologies if I have created a duplicate thread; if so, please point me to it.

I posted previously about my 30 Tudor and plans to get it back on the road as a local driver, but not a show car. I am planning to go with black paint, black wheels, and blackwall tires and keep it as original as practical. The wheels have been painted black since my original post here, and the car is now running fine. My hope was to re-use the old Allstate nylon tires, but examination of them after removal from the wheels has revealed too much rot; so looking at the new Goodyears now.

My local painter says he likes DuPont paints but has no experience with Model A's, so I am particularly interested in results using that brand of black paint for a Model A. Thanks for any participation here---Tudors, Coupes, Pickups, anything black!

Thanks,

David

For a real black color, use Nason FUL-THANE 2K URETHANE SS CODE: DX8 THIS A 1950 CHRYSLER COLOR URETHANE IS A VERY TOUGH PAINT & REALY SHINES

[pgerhardt]

Here is my contribution. My steel clad 1928 Huckster. Painted with Nitrocellulose Lacquer and buffed out.

[mshmodela]

Ms. Daisy, late 31'

[Tinbasher]

The More I see the Black I lean to painting my 28 Sports Coupe all black. It looks so clean. So Black with a French Grey stripe. Black wheels. Tan or Black top?

Tinbasher

[rusty12]

That original 1931 Victoria is a great car and the right color!!! I remember drooling all over it at the Lexington MARC National Meet. I think I could find a place for it in my garage. Someone will be a happy new owner!

[mshmodela]

What's nice about black is how is ages... My wheels could use a repainting but I like how they look a little dull --adds age to the car as does black wall tires...

[mshmodela]

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Originally Posted by Tinbasher

The More I see the Black I lean to painting my 28 Sports Coupe all black. It looks so clean. So Black with a French Grey stripe. Black wheels. Tan or Black top?

Tinbasher

Black or Tan top? that's tough choice... My gut thinks Tan might look better...

[mshmodela]

Originally Posted by pgerhardt

Here is my contribution. My steel clad 1928 Huckster. Painted with Nitrocellulose Lacquer and buffed out.

Great, no make that OUTSTANDING looking Truck..

[NCDave]

Fellow "Ford Barn" member Jim from Georgia sent me some great photos of his absolutely beautiful Tudor in all-black. He gave me permission to post some here (if I can make it work). Thanks for those!
According to Jim, the paint is PPG Concept 'Super Black Ebony', a Nissan color code KH3, and the wheels are powder coat.

[NCDave]

Another view of Jim's 30 Tudor. I had to downsize his photo to be able to post it...didn't mean to cut off the wheels.
Really nice car.

[davehc]

Yes , love the black cars . Mine has a very old , twenty plus years lacquer paint job , and some noticeable old body work in a couple places , BUT , it's a driver and that's the way I like it .

[mshmodela]

Originally Posted by davehc

Yes , love the black cars . Mine has a very old , twenty plus years lacquer paint job , and some noticeable old body work in a couple places , BUT , it's a driver and that's the way I like it .

LOoKS Awesome!

[NCDave]

Thanks again to all who are posting here!

[NCDave]

Originally Posted by mshmodela

Ms. Daisy, late 31'

Mike, you have a great car there, and thanks for the posts. It's hard to tell, but does it have a red pinstripe?

[NCDave]

Originally Posted by pgerhardt

Here is my contribution. My steel clad 1928 Huckster. Painted with Nitrocellulose Lacquer and buffed out.

I have become a fan of the Huckster, and that is one to envy there!

[NCDave]

Originally Posted by therupperts

My pickup was black when I bought it. Wouldn't change it! Understand that the 29 closed cab pickup had a black paint option when new.

I wouldn't change a thing there, either! Beautiful pickup. Thanks for posting.

[SkipShift]

[TonyM]

My favorite kind of Model A is Black with black wheels and black wall tires. Love seeing the photos.

[Greg Jones]

My 1930 Standard Coupe

[Greg Jones]

Another

[msmaron]

here

[milo]

Probably not what you're looking for...

[mshmodela]

NCDave,

Yes a red pin stripe...

[insomniacshotrods]

Sorry been modified some, but its black and last painted sometime in the 80's

[NCDave]

Thanks to the recent posters here---I like them all!

[Bill Cilker]

Here is my Original unrestored Victoria in Black. It has a paint run above one of the doors.

[TonyM]

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When I built the 1/24 Scale Monogram 1930 Model A Coupe, I could not help but to paint it all black. I built this about 14 years ago.

[mshmodela]

Originally Posted by TonyM

When I built the 1/24 Scale Monogram 1930 Model A Coupe, I could not help but to paint it all black. I built this about 14 years ago.

Awesome job you've done their... Car Model building as a kid is how I grew to love old cars... this past Feb. my dream came true with a full size model A.... I still see it as just one big fun Model at times...

[rusty12]

Great looking victoria!

[CT AV8]

It's not stock but it's all early Ford and it is black.

[NCDave]

Bill, very nice Victoria. Used to be one here in my town, and I wish I had bought it...too long ago.

CT, That flathead Ford is old-school cool! I like it very much. Thanks for posting that.

Regarding the model cars, I was big into that as a boy, and learned a lot that way. I have a Tudor Model A kit to build now...one day.

[mass A man]

Early '31 p.u. all black with blackwalls only on a pick up. Old conversion to 16" wheels long, long ago.