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ken1915 · 08-02-2012, 05:44 PM

On my 1914, can the clutch spring be replaced without pulling the engine?

yachtsmanbill · 08-02-2012, 08:50 PM

Theres a little bit (!) more to it than that...Aside from the fact that the motor is going to have to come forward to at the very least, pull the 4th main out, you may as well finish pulling it for a cursory internal inspecting and regasketing. If the clutch spring broke then theres some other funny business going on back there that needs to be looked at. ws

redmodelt · 08-02-2012, 09:04 PM

The engine would have to be moved forward or the rear end removed. The hogs head would need to come off and the 4th main removed. Now there is the problem of the pin holding the spring cup, it sits in a notch. The cup would have to be compressed and turned to line up hole and the pin. While compressed and with the hole lined up with the pin grabbed somehow and pulled up. If the spring is broke this may not be too hard. You the should be able to side the spring and cup off. The new spring with cup would need to be compressed till the pin could be slid in and then turned till it falls into the notch.
Maybe!

yachtsmanbill · 08-02-2012, 09:15 PM

BINGO! If that pin is in fact broken and you compress the cup to pull the pin UP with my luck the bottom (broken piece) will fall down... Game over! Then theres the issue of doing this job through the door(s).
It would really be better to pull the motor IMHO... I wonder what kind of time the book gives for changing the spring??? ws

yachtsmanbill · 08-02-2012, 09:30 PM

I just got a new computer and just NOW downloaded the service manual (green book) and it shows, from pulling the floor mats, pulling the differential back, changing the hardware and putting it all back together including wiping off the steering wheel, a grand total of, get this:

ONE HOUR AND TWO MINUTES

This BTW as per the book is done with the hogshead on through the inspection door on top!

I can see ol' Fritz at the Ford dealer with his trusty ol' T1917 wrench going at it. That job probably cost $3.75 plus parts, so ya may as well toss in a band reline for 45 minutes and pay the extra $1.25. Id hafta put myself on suicide watch after that job LOL!!!

ken1915 · 08-03-2012, 11:55 AM

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Thank you everyone for the advice. I believe I will just pull the engine to see if I can determine what caused the spring to fail.

John Otis · 08-07-2012, 08:22 PM

Pull the engine without hesitation. Much easier and quicker that playing contortionist mechanic unless you are 20 years old. Why did the spring break? I've been dealing with these things for decades and never saw a broken clutch spring.

08-02-2012, 05:44 PM	#1
ken1915 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mesa Arizona Posts: 22	Broken Clutch Spring On my 1914, can the clutch spring be replaced without pulling the engine?

08-02-2012, 08:50 PM	#2
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: Broken Clutch Spring Theres a little bit (!) more to it than that...Aside from the fact that the motor is going to have to come forward to at the very least, pull the 4th main out, you may as well finish pulling it for a cursory internal inspecting and regasketing. If the clutch spring broke then theres some other funny business going on back there that needs to be looked at. ws __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

08-02-2012, 09:04 PM	#3
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,344	Re: Broken Clutch Spring The engine would have to be moved forward or the rear end removed. The hogs head would need to come off and the 4th main removed. Now there is the problem of the pin holding the spring cup, it sits in a notch. The cup would have to be compressed and turned to line up hole and the pin. While compressed and with the hole lined up with the pin grabbed somehow and pulled up. If the spring is broke this may not be too hard. You the should be able to side the spring and cup off. The new spring with cup would need to be compressed till the pin could be slid in and then turned till it falls into the notch. Maybe!

08-02-2012, 09:15 PM	#4
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: Broken Clutch Spring BINGO! If that pin is in fact broken and you compress the cup to pull the pin UP with my luck the bottom (broken piece) will fall down... Game over! Then theres the issue of doing this job through the door(s). It would really be better to pull the motor IMHO... I wonder what kind of time the book gives for changing the spring??? ws __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

08-02-2012, 09:30 PM	#5
yachtsmanbill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wi. Posts: 1,406	Re: Broken Clutch Spring I just got a new computer and just NOW downloaded the service manual (green book) and it shows, from pulling the floor mats, pulling the differential back, changing the hardware and putting it all back together including wiping off the steering wheel, a grand total of, get this: ONE HOUR AND TWO MINUTES This BTW as per the book is done with the hogshead on through the inspection door on top! I can see ol' Fritz at the Ford dealer with his trusty ol' T1917 wrench going at it. That job probably cost $3.75 plus parts, so ya may as well toss in a band reline for 45 minutes and pay the extra $1.25. Id hafta put myself on suicide watch after that job LOL!!! __________________ " Warning; the following contains content that the anal retentive may find offensive - please skip on to the next posting!"

08-03-2012, 11:55 AM	#6
ken1915 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mesa Arizona Posts: 22	Re: Broken Clutch Spring Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thank you everyone for the advice. I believe I will just pull the engine to see if I can determine what caused the spring to fail.

08-07-2012, 08:22 PM	#7
John Otis Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vermont and Florida Posts: 188	Re: Broken Clutch Spring Pull the engine without hesitation. Much easier and quicker that playing contortionist mechanic unless you are 20 years old. Why did the spring break? I've been dealing with these things for decades and never saw a broken clutch spring.