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quickchange · 12-07-2016, 10:55 PM

Four blade fans where for commercials as they went slower & more likely to overheat when going slow hauling a load , If fitting the alloy 2 blade don,t forget the steel washer under the nut, this will keep the blade tight on the taper.

DJ S · 12-07-2016, 11:01 PM

After an original steel fan broke apart and nearly tore apart my radiator, I will never use or recommend using an original fan of any sort.

Dick Steinkamp · 12-07-2016, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWizard

Anyone know where I can find a top outlet with 2 holes for fittings? Now I have put a T in a single hole and had the temp sensor for the gauge out one side and a switch for the fan on the other, but that was also hidden behind the block of a Hemi where is was barely visible. Out in the open as this is, I am thinking maybe an outlet per side would be in order.

There are a variety of aftermarket electric fan controllers that use a probe that goes in between the fins of the radiator to sense the temp.

duke36 · 12-07-2016, 11:43 PM

Installed a new Snyder alum. fan on a new leakless pump. The castle nut provided with the pump wouldn't align with the cotter hole with a washer installed. The vendor's catalogue dwg. shows no washer but not sure if that's for a steel fan. The fan appears to fit the shaft and woodruff key very well and snug. Should a very thin steel washer still be used under the nut ?

tbirdtbird · 12-08-2016, 12:16 AM

yep, for sure if the fan is aluminum.

Using the side of your grinding wheel just lightly grind on the nut a little at a time until you can get the cotter pin thru

CarlG · 12-08-2016, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWizard

...Anyone know where I can find a top outlet with 2 holes for fittings? ...

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Originally Posted by 1955cj5

Maybe this one..

http://www.vintageprecision.com/prod..._top_view.html

Picture of the Vintage Precision unit ...

Terry, NJ · 12-08-2016, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Yes it seems they are made by one place

Yes but, I checked the two I have and both were out of balance, one was quite a bit. I doubt this will have much effect, but it will increase vibrations somewhat. I wouldn't put one on with at least checking.
Terry

Mitch//pa · 12-08-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry, NJ

Yes but, I checked the two I have and both were out of balance, one was quite a bit. I doubt this will have much effect, but it will increase vibrations somewhat. I wouldn't put one on with at least checking.
Terry

Are your fans newer? Or purchased from some flea market table selling old stock...

duke36 · 12-08-2016, 11:49 AM

Okay thanks for the info. A thin washer makes sense.

Y-Blockhead · 12-08-2016, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Steinkamp

There are a variety of aftermarket electric fan controllers that use a probe that goes in between the fins of the radiator to sense the temp.

Yes but with a thermal switch you only need one wire to the sensor and it makes for a "cleaner" installation. I would use a relay with the thermal switch tho so all the amps don't go through the thermal switch.

Tom Wesenberg · 12-08-2016, 07:35 PM

Why not just keep it simple and reliable, and install a new 2 blade aluminum fan?

eagle · 12-08-2016, 09:05 PM

Macs has two different two blade fans, one cast aluminum and one steel. I have the cast aluminum but haven't got it on yet, still have the original.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-08-2016, 10:51 PM

PLEASE, don't ANYONE ask about WHICH OIL????
Bill W.

tbirdtbird · 12-08-2016, 11:20 PM

I store my unused 4-blade fans wiped down with non-detergent oil

eagle · 12-09-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by forever4

Which viscosity oil do you recommend?
Wouldn't modern detergent oil be better for this application?

I would definitely add some marvel mystery oil to the mix.

JBill · 12-09-2016, 08:52 AM

Since this thread has already gone all over the place I'll put in a plug for the six-blade plastic fan, if you don't insist on the original look.

Terry, NJ · 12-09-2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

Are your fans newer? Or purchased from some flea market table selling old stock...

One I found at the bottom of a creek, very few pits, great shape! The other I found in a scrap yard, One blade was just sticking out from a pile! It was a little bent but I put it in the vice and squeezed it and banged it back with a big hammer, Works great! LOL
Seriously, One was bought at a swap meet and the other was was purchased from Snyders two years ago.
Terry

CarlG · 12-09-2016, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JBill

Since this thread has already gone all over the place I'll put in a plug for the six-blade plastic fan, if you don't insist on the original look.

That is what I now have after the 4-blade "truck" fan that came wiht my vehicle took out my radiator when the rivets decided to self destruct.

Dick Steinkamp · 12-09-2016, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forever4

Which viscosity oil do you recommend?
Wouldn't modern detergent oil be better for this application?

I use 1/2 Delo 400 10w/30 and 1/2 ZDDP. Anyone who uses otherwise would be a fool!

DougVieyra · 12-09-2016, 12:55 PM

Dick Steinkamp, Post # 37: "Anyone who uses otherwise would be a fool! "
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Dick, I am hoping that you are having a little fun and humor with us, with that remark.

Otherwise it might be construed as being rude, and not in keeping with respect for other's view points.

12-07-2016, 10:55 PM	#21
quickchange Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nelson. New Zealand Posts: 2,010	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Four blade fans where for commercials as they went slower & more likely to overheat when going slow hauling a load , If fitting the alloy 2 blade don,t forget the steel washer under the nut, this will keep the blade tight on the taper.

12-07-2016, 11:01 PM	#22
DJ S Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Southwick, MA Posts: 590	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? After an original steel fan broke apart and nearly tore apart my radiator, I will never use or recommend using an original fan of any sort.

12-07-2016, 11:43 PM	#24
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Installed a new Snyder alum. fan on a new leakless pump. The castle nut provided with the pump wouldn't align with the cotter hole with a washer installed. The vendor's catalogue dwg. shows no washer but not sure if that's for a steel fan. The fan appears to fit the shaft and woodruff key very well and snug. Should a very thin steel washer still be used under the nut ?

12-08-2016, 12:16 AM	#25
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? yep, for sure if the fan is aluminum. Using the side of your grinding wheel just lightly grind on the nut a little at a time until you can get the cotter pin thru __________________ '31 180A

12-08-2016, 11:49 AM	#29
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Okay thanks for the info. A thin washer makes sense.

12-08-2016, 07:35 PM	#31
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Why not just keep it simple and reliable, and install a new 2 blade aluminum fan?

12-08-2016, 09:05 PM	#32
eagle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Eagle Bend, MN Posts: 2,028	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Macs has two different two blade fans, one cast aluminum and one steel. I have the cast aluminum but haven't got it on yet, still have the original. __________________ "There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool."

12-08-2016, 10:51 PM	#33
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? PLEASE, don't ANYONE ask about WHICH OIL???? Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

12-08-2016, 11:20 PM	#34
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? I store my unused 4-blade fans wiped down with non-detergent oil __________________ '31 180A

12-09-2016, 08:52 AM	#36
JBill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 702	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Since this thread has already gone all over the place I'll put in a plug for the six-blade plastic fan, if you don't insist on the original look.

12-09-2016, 12:55 PM	#40
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Are all new 2 blade fans in the catalogs alike? Dick Steinkamp, Post # 37: "Anyone who uses otherwise would be a fool! " ------------------------------------------ Dick, I am hoping that you are having a little fun and humor with us, with that remark. Otherwise it might be construed as being rude, and not in keeping with respect for other's view points.