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smittykid · 08-25-2014, 06:19 AM

I'm looking at the exhaust whistles from Bratton's and Snyder's. Big difference in price-Brattons' $145/Snyder's $225 + adapter. It looks like the one from Bratton's fits on the tip of the exhaust pipe and the one from Snyder's (similar to an Aermore) mounts near the exhaust manifold.
I was wondering who out there may enlighten me on the performance of one or the other. I don't mind spending the extra bucks if it's going to be a much better preforming whistle. Thanks, Smitty

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 08-25-2014, 06:58 AM

It is my opinion that 'Heat is Energy' when you are playing with one. The closer to the engine, the more heat and energy that is placed thru the air tubes. My Model-A Aermore whistle actually mounts onto the end of the exhaust manifold and the cut-out is there. The one on my Model-T is about half way down the exhaust pipe and it is not nearly as loud nor shrill. I guess it is really all about how much noise, --or belligerent you want to be with it.

DougVieyra · 08-25-2014, 11:46 AM

During the 1960's I had (still do, sitting on a shelf in basement) an original Aermore Exhaust Whistle (aka, 'Train whistle') mounted on my Phaeton. I loved the excitement that it gave both me and others when I blew it.

As Brent has said, it mounted (special fitting) between the end of the exhaust manifold and the beginning of the muffler flange. The originals came in three different sizes. The smaller size was required because of mounting/space issues.

I removed the Exhaust Whistle because of the constant hassle of having to re-adjust the exhaust clamp fittings. The weight of the whistle and its special iron 'adapter' aggravated a good fitting of the clamp, so it was constantly leaking, shortly after I had reworked the fitting of the clamp.

I really did like the whistle and its train sound, but removed it because of the constant leaking of the exhaust / muffler, So when I saw that Bratton's had 'A better Idea', I thought I might like to get his (Walt's) version of the 'Train Whistle'. I have not as yet done so, but it is on the 'back burner' . I think the 'end of tail pipe' version may mount better than the old version.

- Doug Vieyra, in Foggy Eureka, California - 50 degrees at 10 am

willobs · 08-25-2014, 12:56 PM

I purchased the cheap aftermarket one from Smith and Jones that fits on the rear of tail pipe, am very pleased is very loud and easy to install

pooch · 08-25-2014, 06:07 PM

How many USA states have outlawed multi-toned "horns" which include exhaust whistles ?

I know at least NSW over here has, dunno about other states.

Klaxons are still legal because they are original.

Last rego inspection, the mechanic, (about 45 ) said my klaxon was illegal, the boss (late 70/s ), said no, that is quite OK, it came with the car.

The hoons with the musical trumpets caused that law to be enacted here.

ericr · 08-25-2014, 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pooch

How many USA states have outlawed multi-toned "horns" which include exhaust whistles ?

I know at least NSW over here has, dunno about other states.

Klaxons are still legal because they are original.

Last rego inspection, the mechanic, (about 45 ) said my klaxon was illegal, the boss (late 70/s ), said no, that is quite OK, it came with the car.

The hoons with the musical trumpets caused that law to be enacted here.

LOL Dad knew a guy that had those French horns on his Model "A" Ford and he also had a Rajo head on it. This guy like to drive on country roads where he would come up behind a slow-moving luxury sedan (a Packard, Marmon, etc.) and blow the "Ta-ta, ta-ta" horns. The driver in front of him would often pull over to let him pass, assuming it was a similar high end car, whereupon a cheap Model "A" Ford would rattle by him, with another horn blast. The luxury driver often got mad and tried to catch up with him but usually the Model A could eventually pull away from him with his souped-up engine.

Dick Carne · 08-25-2014, 09:33 PM

Years ago we had one of each style - the Aermore that mounted before the muffler, and the kind I think that you referred to that goes on the end of the tailpipe. No comparison in my opinion - the Aermore was much louder and more "locomotive" sounding - perhaps because of its placement in front of the muffler. The other was very mild by comparison. With that said, the problem with the Aermore is that it seemed to require constant adjusting to keep exhaust leaks in line, and more times than one the spring on the activation lever was inadequate to fully open the valve in the cutout once it had been used. I suppose a stronger spring(s) would perhaps cure that issue, but we too removed it after a time because of the continual issue with exhaust leaks. Hope this helps.

Hoogah · 08-26-2014, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooch

How many USA states have outlawed multi-toned "horns" which include exhaust whistles ?

I know at least NSW over here has, dunno about other states.

Klaxons are still legal because they are original.

Last rego inspection, the mechanic, (about 45 ) said my klaxon was illegal, the boss (late 70/s ), said no, that is quite OK, it came with the car.

The hoons with the musical trumpets caused that law to be enacted here.

Nah, I blame the Dukes of Hazzard.

Joe K · 08-26-2014, 09:40 AM

I think in Cow Hampshire, unusual horns are allowed, but they can't be the primary horn for the car.

You still have to get an inspection and get the "now try the horn" so the Inspection Dude can verify you have a working, possibly original horn. (non-originality is a reason for not passing.)

"Waddya mean - Bermuda Bells WERE the original horn for my horse carriage."

Joe K

BlueSunoco · 08-26-2014, 01:13 PM

Had an exhaust whistle that came on the Tudor years ago, screwed into the vacuum connection on the exhaust manifold, You pulled a piece of bailing wire to activate it. I think a J.C. Whitney part, and they called it a Wolf Whistle.

Tossed it in the trash, should have kept it!!

Tom Wesenberg · 08-26-2014, 02:46 PM

BlueSunoco, I know you meant "intake" manifold. I can't believe you tossed your wolf whistle. I used to have a lot of fun with mine. I had to spray lube on the spinner quite often though, or it would quit working.

BlueSunoco · 08-26-2014, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

BlueSunoco, I know you meant "intake" manifold. I can't believe you tossed your wolf whistle. I used to have a lot of fun with mine. I had to spray lube on the spinner quite often though, or it would quit working.

oops you -be-right Tom,,,, was the intake wasn't paying attention to what I typed!!!

mhsprecher · 08-26-2014, 04:18 PM

A guy I know has a wolf whistle on his intake manifold. He says all Model As should have one. I have. I idea if they are still available.

Tom Wesenberg · 08-26-2014, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhsprecher

A guy I know has a wolf whistle on his intake manifold. He says all Model As should have one. I have. I idea if they are still available.

The delux wolf whistle used to cost $3.98 and is still available, but now costs $49.99.

pooch · 08-26-2014, 05:39 PM

I had a wolf whistle early 70/s, it was an art to get it just right, or it sounded dumb.

Had to pull the wire /cord just right ..short then long then fade out .

This hoon has it all, although he needs some practice on the wolfie....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NgWHjc3IXo

08-25-2014, 06:19 AM	#1
smittykid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: NW Pa./Sc. Posts: 252	Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? I'm looking at the exhaust whistles from Bratton's and Snyder's. Big difference in price-Brattons' $145/Snyder's $225 + adapter. It looks like the one from Bratton's fits on the tip of the exhaust pipe and the one from Snyder's (similar to an Aermore) mounts near the exhaust manifold. I was wondering who out there may enlighten me on the performance of one or the other. I don't mind spending the extra bucks if it's going to be a much better preforming whistle. Thanks, Smitty

08-25-2014, 06:58 AM	#2
BRENT in 10-uh-C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern Tennessee Posts: 11,546	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? It is my opinion that 'Heat is Energy' when you are playing with one. The closer to the engine, the more heat and energy that is placed thru the air tubes. My Model-A Aermore whistle actually mounts onto the end of the exhaust manifold and the cut-out is there. The one on my Model-T is about half way down the exhaust pipe and it is not nearly as loud nor shrill. I guess it is really all about how much noise, --or belligerent you want to be with it. __________________ . BRENT in 10-uh-C . www.model-a-ford.com ...(...Finally Updated!! ) .

08-25-2014, 11:46 AM	#3
DougVieyra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 1,716	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? During the 1960's I had (still do, sitting on a shelf in basement) an original Aermore Exhaust Whistle (aka, 'Train whistle') mounted on my Phaeton. I loved the excitement that it gave both me and others when I blew it. As Brent has said, it mounted (special fitting) between the end of the exhaust manifold and the beginning of the muffler flange. The originals came in three different sizes. The smaller size was required because of mounting/space issues. I removed the Exhaust Whistle because of the constant hassle of having to re-adjust the exhaust clamp fittings. The weight of the whistle and its special iron 'adapter' aggravated a good fitting of the clamp, so it was constantly leaking, shortly after I had reworked the fitting of the clamp. I really did like the whistle and its train sound, but removed it because of the constant leaking of the exhaust / muffler, So when I saw that Bratton's had 'A better Idea', I thought I might like to get his (Walt's) version of the 'Train Whistle'. I have not as yet done so, but it is on the 'back burner' . I think the 'end of tail pipe' version may mount better than the old version. - Doug Vieyra, in Foggy Eureka, California - 50 degrees at 10 am

08-25-2014, 12:56 PM	#4
willobs Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SW Fla Posts: 202	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? I purchased the cheap aftermarket one from Smith and Jones that fits on the rear of tail pipe, am very pleased is very loud and easy to install

08-25-2014, 06:07 PM	#5
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? How many USA states have outlawed multi-toned "horns" which include exhaust whistles ? I know at least NSW over here has, dunno about other states. Klaxons are still legal because they are original. Last rego inspection, the mechanic, (about 45 ) said my klaxon was illegal, the boss (late 70/s ), said no, that is quite OK, it came with the car. The hoons with the musical trumpets caused that law to be enacted here.

08-25-2014, 09:33 PM	#7
Dick Carne Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fayetteville, Georgia Posts: 467	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? Years ago we had one of each style - the Aermore that mounted before the muffler, and the kind I think that you referred to that goes on the end of the tailpipe. No comparison in my opinion - the Aermore was much louder and more "locomotive" sounding - perhaps because of its placement in front of the muffler. The other was very mild by comparison. With that said, the problem with the Aermore is that it seemed to require constant adjusting to keep exhaust leaks in line, and more times than one the spring on the activation lever was inadequate to fully open the valve in the cutout once it had been used. I suppose a stronger spring(s) would perhaps cure that issue, but we too removed it after a time because of the continual issue with exhaust leaks. Hope this helps.

08-26-2014, 09:40 AM	#9
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? I think in Cow Hampshire, unusual horns are allowed, but they can't be the primary horn for the car. You still have to get an inspection and get the "now try the horn" so the Inspection Dude can verify you have a working, possibly original horn. (non-originality is a reason for not passing.) "Waddya mean - Bermuda Bells WERE the original horn for my horse carriage." Joe K __________________ Shudda kept the horse.

08-26-2014, 01:13 PM	#10
BlueSunoco Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Windy City Posts: 937	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? Had an exhaust whistle that came on the Tudor years ago, screwed into the vacuum connection on the exhaust manifold, You pulled a piece of bailing wire to activate it. I think a J.C. Whitney part, and they called it a Wolf Whistle. Tossed it in the trash, should have kept it!!

08-26-2014, 02:46 PM	#11
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? BlueSunoco, I know you meant "intake" manifold. I can't believe you tossed your wolf whistle. I used to have a lot of fun with mine. I had to spray lube on the spinner quite often though, or it would quit working.

08-26-2014, 04:18 PM	#13
mhsprecher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Takoma Park, MD Posts: 2,820	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? A guy I know has a wolf whistle on his intake manifold. He says all Model As should have one. I have. I idea if they are still available.

08-26-2014, 05:39 PM	#15
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: Has anyone ever installed an exhaust whistle from Bratton's or Snyder's? I had a wolf whistle early 70/s, it was an art to get it just right, or it sounded dumb. Had to pull the wire /cord just right ..short then long then fade out . This hoon has it all, although he needs some practice on the wolfie.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NgWHjc3IXo Last edited by pooch; 08-26-2014 at 05:44 PM.