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10-28-2019, 10:27 PM | #1 |
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Single stage or base/clear
This question isn't about an old Ford but it could be. I'm buying a 2003 white MR2 and from a different seller a blue hardtop. Will have to paint the hardtop to match. Paint on MR2 is 16 years old and faded somewhat.
My question is single stage or base/clear for the hardtop? Base/clear is very shiny and 16 year old paint not so much.
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10-28-2019, 10:52 PM | #2 |
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Re: Single stage or base/clear
For me it boils down to where you are going to paint. If you have a PROFESSIONAL downdraft paint booth with zero dust/bugs/debris Base/clear is fine. If you don't have a perfect place to paint, with the multiple coats you need to apply, you multiply the odds you will be getting small places to fix in the final product.
It is for this reason I use single stage urethane. If you look at pictures of my wagon (and my buddy's wagon I painted Lyon blue) and my 40 coupe, I painted both of those in my gravel driveway. Yes, I wet-sanded compounded the final coat. In my previous shop, I did have a home made paint booth and I did a couple of Base/clear jobs but I still had issues. |
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10-29-2019, 02:56 AM | #3 |
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Re: Single stage or base/clear
I'd do single stage. less you want a trailer show finish. Then hand rubbed lacquer.
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10-29-2019, 04:42 AM | #5 |
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Re: Single stage or base/clear
Something to consider is if the color you are spraying is a solid or a metallic. If it is a metallic I would shoot it in base/ clear. It is easier to get the metallic even with base/ clear. It is easy to get stripes when shooting single stage metallic.
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10-29-2019, 06:31 AM | #6 |
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10-29-2019, 11:00 AM | #7 |
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Re: Single stage or base/clear
My pickup is single stage urethane that I painted in my driveway. Looks great after 19 years and it was easy to work with. Get a good respirator if you do it yourself.
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10-29-2019, 03:48 PM | #8 |
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Re: Single stage or base/clear
White is actually a hard color to match, so I would start with a "test part" and see how you like the tone of whatever paint you use. I used to have a ton of various toners - to tweak white as needed. As the car has old paint on it now - it might not really match a new OEM formula. I'd also detail/polish the car before I did the top - will help you better match not only the color/tone, but the level of glossiness when you polish whatever paint you use.
As others mentioned, if it is an iridescent or metallic color, then unless you're extremely good at spraying, have the right equipment and know how to lay down the paint very evenly, you'll be better off with two-stage. This way you are only polishing the clear coat. My guess is that the car is two-stage (has to be), so also consider that in your ponderings . . . |
10-30-2019, 09:01 AM | #9 |
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Re: Single stage or base/clear
Lots of great info. For single stage solid colors some manufacturers have an option of adding clear to the final coats after coverage is achieved. This is not over the single stage but into the single stage. Concerning tinting and White in particular. White can be hard to match since most starting formulas already contain black and/or chromatic colorants (red, yellow, blue, green, etc.). Therefore when adding additional colorants to an existing formula, the hue of your white can move a completely different direction than the colorant added; its called "crossing the color wheel" which cannot be corrected by additional colorants; the only fix is starting over with a new mix. Example: if the white formula includes yellow and then you add blue (to make the white "bluer") the white becomes "greener" not "bluer" (blue and yellow make green). The best option in this example is to leave the yellow out of the formula and add blue if needed. Hope this brief "color theory" is helpful.
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10-30-2019, 10:58 AM | #11 |
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Yes white can be a bugger to match. The one thing going for you is that the top is a separate part. Is there a gasket between the top and the body that shows?
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