09-30-2023, 11:22 AM | #1 |
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do they make a serrated (non swedging) wheel stud that will replace the standard model a stud------thanks
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09-30-2023, 12:58 PM | #2 |
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No. The swedging expands the stud to fill in the hole. This makes a tight assembly that does not move around. Studs that are just put in the holes and then welded at the back come loose because the movement of the studs breaks the welds. Modern studs have serrations that dig into the ID of the holes to make a tight fit, but they are not designed for the Model A. It takes about 80 tons to swedge the studs. I found one place here were I live that had the 80 ton press. The Ford dealer who started business in 1915 had no idea what I was talking about. Did not compute.
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10-01-2023, 09:37 AM | #5 |
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I used a swedge cutting tool for 1/2" studs (Goodson ST-500) to remove the studs from the drums/hubs on my 31 coupe. The original studs then can be easily pressed from their mountings. The holes in the hubs were then reamed to .594" (19/32"), and Dorman 610-234, 1/2-20 SAE serrated studs were pressed in their place. These studs measure .622" serration diameter which is seating the part about .015" into the lands on the serrations.The under head length is said to be 1.625", mine measured 1.610" length. It has shown to be a better alternative then replacing with the original swedged type studs.
The relief valve on my shop press will allow development of 40 tons on the ram. In the past it has shown to be more than adequate to swedge the original style studs. |
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10-01-2023, 12:43 PM | #7 |
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Brent, You may be right. I remember it being a lot and maybe it was 30, but not the 5 tons available for most presses. The stud expands and locks on the tool. I had to weld a big collar on the tool in able to remove it.
The press size does not change the fact that the Ford dealer had no idea what I was talking about. If they cannot plug into the engine management computer, they cannot fix the car.
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[QUOTE=8EL;2259386]I used a swedge cutting tool for 1/2" studs (Goodson ST-500) to remove the studs from the drums/hubs on my 31 coupe. The original studs then can be easily pressed from their mountings. The holes in the hubs were then reamed to .594" (19/32"), and Dorman 610-234, 1/2-20 SAE serrated studs were pressed in their place. These studs measure .622" serration diameter which is seating the part about .015" into the lands on the serrations.The under head length is said to be 1.625", mine measured 1.610" length. It has shown to be a better alternative then replacing with the original swedged type studs.
Hello 8EL , I was very interested in your recent post about using dorman splined wheel studs instead of the original swauged studs . This is something i would like to do when fitting my new drums . I can see this would work well with the fronts but the rears use a countersunk stud and i cant see how you could use a dorman stud in this position . Please can you explain how to do this ? |
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The rear hubs I have run across are not countersunk, they did however have a relief cut for the head of the stud. I mounted the hub in the rotary table and cut this relief a little deeper to accommodate the head on the dorman studs. New cast iron brake drums were installed having a square shouldered hole. Tightening the rim against the drum held them securely as on a modern automobile.
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10-08-2023, 03:49 PM | #11 |
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where did you find these?
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10-08-2023, 04:22 PM | #12 |
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These came off a 31 tudor, they are not the first ones like it I have come across, or fitted with the studs I described earlier. Send a picture of what you have, they are obviously different than mine, curious to see in what way......
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