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1stford · 09-18-2016, 01:39 PM

So I'm restoring a 1936 ford truck that has been a family car since 1960. It was the vehicle my mom learned to drive on, I'm making
Progress but running into some questions that I'm hoping to get some info on.
Any help would be appreciated

1). I'm looking for the Sherwin Williams paint code for Vinyard Green. I believe it's a 35 color.

2). Anyone have any pictures of the running of brake lines for a 39? This truck was upgraded to hydroluic brakes. I'm specifically looking for how you connect the hose to the stainless line on the drivers side.

Thanks.

JSeery · 09-18-2016, 01:55 PM

Here is a Green Book diagram of the 46-48 brake system. Is the hose 2078 on the diagram the one you are interested in?

Ronnie · 09-18-2016, 01:59 PM

Dr google can do that paint code.

R

Charlie Stephens · 09-18-2016, 02:42 PM

Unless someone comes up with a code I would suggest buying the book from the Early Ford V8 club that covers the 1935-36 Fords. Unfortunately this sometimes fall a little short on the trucks but there is still a lot of useful information in them. They should have paint chips (you might double check when ordering). Take the chips to a paint dealer and have them scanned and matched.

You connect the flexible brake line to the brake lines using fitting 91A-2075 (http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/F...akefitting.jpg) a special bolt and washers then go into this fitting (http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/F...akefitting.jpg). A special clip holds the brass fitting to the bracket, (http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/F...-brakehose.jpg) If your stainless line has different ends from the '39-'48 type hose I am afraid you are on our own, Good Luck. It is just Henry's way of getting back at you for not using original parts. Attached is a bracket I made from a piece of angle iron to support the fitting. Note that the moisture is from a leaking shock and not a leaking brake line.

Charlie Stephens

Charlie Stephens · 09-18-2016, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

Here is a Green Book diagram of the 46-48 brake system. Is the hose 2078 on the diagram the one you are interested in?

I thought he was asking about 2079. I hope he will clarify it.

Charlie Stephens

JSeery · 09-18-2016, 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stford

I'm specifically looking for how you connect the hose to the stainless line on the drivers side.
Thanks.

Unless something different is going on it should connect just like any other brake line. The fitting on the hose has internal threads that the fitting on the brake line screws into. The outside of the fitting on the brake hose has a caller and a groove. It goes through the hole on the mounting bracket and is held in place with a clip.

JSeery · 09-18-2016, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Stephens

I thought he was asking about 2079. I hope he will clarify it.

Charlie Stephens

I think you are correct after I reread the OP. Also it is not clear to me if he has an original setup like you posted or a more common later connection. Ether way, one screws into the other and has a retainer. So, I'm not really sure what the question is. Charlie is there a difference between the passenger side and the drivers side on the brake connection on the 40s?

V8COOPMAN · 09-18-2016, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

Charlie is there a difference between the passenger side and the drivers side on the brake connection on the 40s?

Only difference between left and right is that the DRIVER-side hose screws into a "T", where-as the PAX-side is a straight shot. DD

Charlie Stephens · 09-18-2016, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

I think you are correct after I reread the OP. Also it is not clear to me if he has an original setup like you posted or a more common later connection. Ether way, one screws into the other and has a retainer. So, I'm not really sure what the question is. Charlie is there a difference between the passenger side and the drivers side on the brake connection on the 40s?

The brake fluid must pass through the brass fitting on the drivers side and continue to the passenger side. The passenger side is the end and the brass fitting is not used. The hard line screws directly into the brake hose. I assume this is correct for a forty but I put mine on my '32 together 30 years ago. Again, don't worry that is shock fluid leaking.

Charlie Stephens

corvette8n · 09-18-2016, 03:23 PM

Welcome to the forum, let us know what part of the country you are from and post some pictures of your vehicle.

Mike in AZ · 09-18-2016, 05:46 PM

welcome to the 'Barn...yep, we love pics...Mike

1stford · 09-18-2016, 08:05 PM

Thank you everyone for the replies. I've bought the Early V8 club book and the color is in there. I've gotten the paint code that Henry used but nothing to move that over to Sherwin Williams.

V8Coopman can you show me a side view of the pieces that are holding the brake lines up in the front, or just how those attach. For some reason I thought those lines when through a hole in the frame. As far as my truck I will post pictures. As I said it was a family vehicle. I believe it has a 39 reared, 49 flat head and Hydraulic brakes, other then those things no modifications.

1stford · 09-18-2016, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

Unless something different is going on it should connect just like any other brake line. The fitting on the hose has internal threads that the fitting on the brake line screws into. The outside of the fitting on the brake hose has a caller and a groove. It goes through the hole on the mounting bracket and is held in place with a clip.

How does the mounting bracket affix to the frame.

JSeery · 09-18-2016, 08:30 PM

http://cgfordparts.com/wwwsectionfil...e-Hose-Bracket

Bottom tab goes in a hole in the frame, the next hole up is for a bolt and the top hole if for the brake line.

1stford · 09-18-2016, 08:43 PM

Ok. I found these things today in a box and was not sure exactly what they were for. Thank you.

VeryTangled · 09-18-2016, 08:46 PM

Hi Everyone. '36 Truck. CHECK!
Paint questions. Please don't. Whatever it is, is better than new.

1stford · 09-19-2016, 08:36 AM

Everytime I try to upload pictures it says "invalid file?"

1stford · 09-27-2016, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Only difference between left and right is that the DRIVER-side hose screws into a "T", where-as the PAX-side is a straight shot. DD

Does anyone have any pictures of how those brake line brackets look when the fenders are on. I'm trying to visualize how it is those brackets are not in the way. I have a 1936 truck that has been converted to hydro brakes. Any reason those same brackets would not work for me and my stock fender application? Also V8, do you have another picture that better shows the brake line from the T to master Cylinder?
thanks

V8COOPMAN · 09-30-2016, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stford

V8Coopman can you show me a side view of the pieces that are holding the brake lines up in the front, or just how those attach. For some reason I thought those lines when through a hole in the frame.

Sorry that it took me a while to get to this bracket pic. DD

rotorwrench · 09-30-2016, 11:26 AM

The old paint codes for enamels & lacquers are basically worthless in the modern era. TCP Global is the only automotive paint distributor that claims they can match them. There have been good reports and bad reports on their color match capability.

If you have an example of a paint color from a small panel on the vehicle, It can be matched by a local reputable distributor but the panel would need to be from an area that has not been affected by weather or sun light. You wouldn't want to match a faded color for sure. Color chips are too small and they fade over time with no exposure to weather or sunlight.

09-18-2016, 01:39 PM	#1
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 274	1st timer So I'm restoring a 1936 ford truck that has been a family car since 1960. It was the vehicle my mom learned to drive on, I'm making Progress but running into some questions that I'm hoping to get some info on. Any help would be appreciated 1). I'm looking for the Sherwin Williams paint code for Vinyard Green. I believe it's a 35 color. 2). Anyone have any pictures of the running of brake lines for a 39? This truck was upgraded to hydroluic brakes. I'm specifically looking for how you connect the hose to the stainless line on the drivers side. Thanks.

09-18-2016, 01:59 PM	#3
Ronnie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Where it snows Posts: 2,058	Re: 1st timer Dr google can do that paint code. R

09-18-2016, 03:23 PM	#10
corvette8n Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 36 miles north of Albany NY Posts: 2,967	Re: 1st timer Welcome to the forum, let us know what part of the country you are from and post some pictures of your vehicle.

09-18-2016, 05:46 PM	#11
Mike in AZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Waddell, AZ Posts: 2,540	Re: 1st timer welcome to the 'Barn...yep, we love pics...Mike

09-18-2016, 08:05 PM	#12
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 274	Re: 1st timer Thank you everyone for the replies. I've bought the Early V8 club book and the color is in there. I've gotten the paint code that Henry used but nothing to move that over to Sherwin Williams. V8Coopman can you show me a side view of the pieces that are holding the brake lines up in the front, or just how those attach. For some reason I thought those lines when through a hole in the frame. As far as my truck I will post pictures. As I said it was a family vehicle. I believe it has a 39 reared, 49 flat head and Hydraulic brakes, other then those things no modifications.

09-18-2016, 08:43 PM	#15
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 274	Re: 1st timer Ok. I found these things today in a box and was not sure exactly what they were for. Thank you.

09-18-2016, 08:46 PM	#16
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: 1st timer Hi Everyone. '36 Truck. CHECK! Paint questions. Please don't. Whatever it is, is better than new. __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?

09-19-2016, 08:36 AM	#17
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 274	Re: 1st timer Everytime I try to upload pictures it says "invalid file?"

09-30-2016, 11:26 AM	#20
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,484	Re: 1st timer The old paint codes for enamels & lacquers are basically worthless in the modern era. TCP Global is the only automotive paint distributor that claims they can match them. There have been good reports and bad reports on their color match capability. If you have an example of a paint color from a small panel on the vehicle, It can be matched by a local reputable distributor but the panel would need to be from an area that has not been affected by weather or sun light. You wouldn't want to match a faded color for sure. Color chips are too small and they fade over time with no exposure to weather or sunlight.