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prefix letter on Ford Badges Does anyone know the importants of the prefix letters on Ford employee badges?
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges The letters signified which part of the plant they were assigned to. You weren't permitted to go to other areas of the plant in which you did not work.
I have a list that tells what dept went with what letter, but it may take a day or so to dig thru my files. |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Oddly enough, I just today got a packet in the mail that explains all of it. I had met a man in Hershey and we struck up a conversation about them.
I'm at work right now and will try to post sometime tomorrow. -Tim |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Thanks guys for checking this out for me, I am sure this is a question most Model "A"s have wondered about before. I was sure Henry had a reason for what he did and I appreciate any information to answer this question.
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Alright...
The Model A era badge was actually the Model T style radiator and was used 1920-1931. This list that I have does not show what the letters designated for this style of badge but there is a comprehensive list for the later 1937-1960's era Rouge. A - Motor Building B - Motor Building, Paper C - Plant, Tank Engine, Power Plant, Specialty Foundry D - Gear and Axle F - Engine Plant G - Iron Foundry H - Plastic J - Exists, Dept unknown K - Exists, Dept unknown L - Stamping Plant M - Iron Foundry N - Glass Plant - under 5,000 Mfg Service, Over 5,000. P - Casting Machine Plant R - Steel Mill S - Stamping Plant T - Mfg Service U - Exists, Dept unknown W - Mfg Service, Under 5,000, Tool and Die under 5,000 X - Dearborn Assembly Y - Exists, Dept unknown Z - Frame Plant This comes from a list compiled by a man named Jim Krucki. -Tim |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges I'm pretty sure "K" is Ford Service- aka Harry Bennett's men. This likely changed when Henry Ford II took over in '45 and Ford Service changed names to "Plant Protection".
You'd see Bennett's men everywhere including Edison Institute, the private homes of various Ford family and high ranking executives. For instance, Charles Sorensen and Ray Dahlinger who were neighbors of Henry Ford had men supplied by Harry Bennett for the purpose of keeping their respective properties secure. Ford Service was one of the few if only division of employees who could go everywhere in the plant. An "HP" prefix would indicate they were assigned to the Highland Park complex. The badge is the same 1937-1964 style with the Rouge background, but would have HP then the badge number. Ford made tractors there as well as other operations after the Rouge opened for production in 1927. It's also worth noting when you were assigned a badge, you'd get a set of tool checks that matched the badge number. |
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Now what about this guy...
Just sold on the 'bay for almost $300... I thought it looked home made/modified. -Tim |
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Like Vince, I've never seen a badge like that and I've been collecting Ford Memorabilia for a good many years in addition to being a Ford historian. |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Guys, I have a Highland Park badge with a FD prefix. Does anyone have an idea what deptment that would refer too?:confused:
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Fire Department :)
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges A neighbor lady claims she worked for Ford in Ypsilanti, and her badge said "Ypsilanti" on it. She says she still has it "somewhere," and will give it to me when she finds it. Was there in fact a badge marked Ypsilanti?
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges OK, now I really want it! :D
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges I have a triangular tool check out tag from the Rouge Plant.
X= assembly 315 - employee pay number These were used to check out company tools, so they knew where to look if they weren't returned at the end of the shift. |
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I haven't seen a pin like that before, but if I had to wager a guess, I'd say it dated from WWII era. Quite possibly used by someone inspecting B-24s coming off the line at Willow Run or amphibious jeeps at the Rouge, etc. In my collection of NOS, I have a few Ford jeep NOS parts. The script on the boxes match the script on your pin. All this is just an educated guess, but it may give you an avenue for more research. |
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Hello Luke: Thanks for the info. Here is one more I do not have any idea what era it is from.
Attachment 58417 Thanks again. Gary in MN |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges I have the Rouge id badge with the letter 'W' before the id number from the model a era. What shop does the 'W' designte?
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Do you know Mike and Eve Herdell in Hidden Valley Lake? Pluck |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges No, I am sorry to say that I do not know them.
Thank you for the answer to my question. Dick Munger |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges I had no idea about these, but would love to hear more.
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Anyone know which badges are the most desirable or collectible, The ones with Dearborn or Rouge on it ?
Can you tell the year the badge was used ? I was looking on ebay, they are asking $95 [buy now]. They are neat, and have a great history. I gotta have one :eek:. |
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Fordgarge,
Would this type be the kind they used in the "A" model era, or a later date ? I guess the prefix Z would mean frame plant. |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Louis-
They used that design from 1937-early 1960s. |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Thank's Luke,
Does anyone have a pic. of what a 1928-1931 era badge would look like ? would that era look like the pic's fordbarn has posted ? |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges They used the Model T radiator badge like the Chester badge Vince posted above during the Model A years.
Ford employee badges have always been something I've had a strong interest in, just wish I had a few more to add to the collection! |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges I guess the "A" model badges are in the hands of collector's, I have not seen one like that on ebay in the last three days. I guess i'll just keep looking, I would love to have one, What a part of history. Thank you for expert opin.
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges I've found most of my badges at swap meets. Ebay has a good selection from time to time, but there are fakes & fantasy badges floating around.
I like to look at them in person before pulling the trigger. The Model T rad shell & prior designs can be hard to find and when you do find them they usually go pretty quick. This may not hold true in areas where Ford plants were originally located, but in my area of FL most badges are brought down by vendors from Michigan. I have found some killer Ford memorabilia in the thrift shops in Dearborn and surrounding areas, but that's been many years back. I'm sure it's changed now. |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Anyone got any idea what these Ford badges were for (from Europe)?
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...sfrontback.jpg Note that the clips on the back of the round ones are cut off pieces from Germany candle holders for candles on a Christmas tree. All of the ones that I have ever seen have the same style clips....so I am inclined to think that they are originals. Thanks for any insight that anyone might be able to provide. Fordially, Brad in Maryland |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Brad,
I've never seen ones like that, but I like them!!! Those clips almost look like vintage women's shawl/fur clamps. |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges You need deep pockets if wanting a Model A era or early V8 [ like Vince depicts] plant badge. Also, the foreign Ford Plants go high on 'the bay''. One of the rarest would be from Seaview Plant [ Wellington, New Zealand] but none have ever surfaced.
I thought to be smart,I'd get badges from companies that supplied Ford on contract, only to find 95% of vendors will not ship ''overseas'' |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Hello everyone. I'm new here. I was reading below and found a comment regarding fake Ford Security badges. I've tried several times to upload a picture of the ones I just bought in hope's of finding just how badly I got scammed, but the upload keeps failing. I have several badges that say "Willow Run Guard" on them. They are tarnished and appear old, but I'm no expert. The middle of the badge has a circular blue Ford logo that seems suspect to me. The top of the badge has an Eagle looking to the left, similar to the Inperial Eagle of WW2. Another thing that makes me suspicious is how good of shape they all seem to be in and the price is fairly low compared to the GM badges I collect. As of the last 2 weeks, I was buying up every Ford badge I could find for my collection and I have spent hundreds of dollars. I have a large collection of GM stuff, so I wanted to start building my collection of other automotive badges. That being said, I know nothing about the Ford stuff and would appreciate any input. Thanks for your help!
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges If you are interested in purchasing a, Ford Rouge, Employee Badge, the Early Ford V-8 Foundation and Museum, www.fordv8foundation.org, is selling them for $25 each. Authentic and original, but a very limited quantity.
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Kenny, You really need one of these. Gary in MN
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Motor-...8AAOSw35pcn72Z |
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-Tim |
Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges Badges! Badges!?? I don't need no stinkin'
Badge !! I don't have to show you no stinkin' Badge-- |
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Re: prefix letter on Ford Badges WOW, this must be a great investment!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRA-RARE-....c100005.m1851 I would rather have a real car for that amount of money. :) |
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